1. yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/08/295991D6-AB19-4C80-93B4-A5859F110120.html but what could this mean for kzuz is reportedly fully delimited & likely
    Aug 31, 2006 @ 13:23 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  2. SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    What do you make of this http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.307729,55.994568
    Sep 03, 2006 @ 12:56 - Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Exactly. The NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ATLAS OF THE WORLD shows this and the other similar oblong area to the southeast as a basin below sea level called Chink
    Sep 03, 2006 @ 14:30 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    not sure about the etymology nor the degree of generality but chink is evidently at least the local probably kazak or russian name for any edge of this crumbly
    Sep 03, 2006 @ 17:16 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    There s a different NASA satellite view of the tripoint on Windows Live Local at http://tinyurl.com/lw7uy . This one shows depression along the Chink
    Sep 03, 2006 @ 22:13 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  6. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    sounds interesting but is this tinyurl working normally it quickly redirects my browser to
    Sep 03, 2006 @ 23:22 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  7. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Both of the Live Local links in your reply work for me. I m not clear on what you re getting when you go to them. Apparently, though, one must be logged in
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 00:56 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    ... great i still get nothing or rather to be perfectly clear i get a blank white screen both normally & also when i try to go via my hotmail account which for
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 07:14 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    but it is clear as well as credible when i zoom encarta all the way in for topography & boundaries
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 14:35 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  10. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    or better yet since the google satpic ultimately gives much more detailed topo isography than the encarta map provided it is aimed & centered correctly as it
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 16:33 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    I agree that there is quite an escarpment there, and the name Chink Kaplankyr might well refer to it rather than the depression at its foot in which the
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 19:24 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@wildblue.net>)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    beautiful thanx great fun & please look for a few inserts below ... if you will survey the usages of chink say in this local ustyurt sampling
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 20:59 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Your and my estimations of the tripoint location are quite close. What makes you think, though, that this is on a fairly steep gradient, when the darkness
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 20:37 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    ... yes it is reassuring to know our guesses are this close at least horizontally but my reading of the satpic combined with what i have seen of surface photos
    Sep 04, 2006 @ 23:30 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Yes, we surely could use one of those old Soviet maps. I looked for one also, but struck out. My statement about the location of the tripoint according to
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 02:13 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  16. Re: yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    ok nice so if live local is any more reliable in its border depictions than our famously unreliable google is then your tripoint position guess would tend to
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 02:57 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Despite whatever degree of spuriousness in the precision, it s the best that we ve got for now. Yes, I agree that we are both probably close enough to call it
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 03:53 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    well ok but actually kzuz is now purported to be fully demarcated per footnote 6 here http://www.asiaquarterly.com/content/view/28 as was expected in this post
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 13:32 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    At http://tinyurl.com/el8e2 are similar deltaic formations on a mudflat inlet of the Caspian Sea on the middle part of the Turkmen coast. Lowell G. McManus
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 15:33 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  20. SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    For those who know how to operate Google Earth: Please turn on terrain, tilt the image and find the area flat. I find Google Earth quite reliable for terrains.
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 18:12 - Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
  21. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    sounds great what does turn on terrain mean or how do you do that or better yet could you just beam up the result for this position ...
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 18:31 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  22. SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Attached various maps of KZTMUZ. Jesper -- Borderbase - your online guide to international borders and tripoints http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase _____ Fra:
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 18:34 - Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@nicolette.dk>)
  23. SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    No fancy results of terrain (or 3d) to show as the entire areas is very flat. The tripoint itself is at water level at 0m and the surroundings do no go higher
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 18:47 - Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
  24. Re: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    wow thanxx jesper for this fantastic new toy & for the recent attachments too electrifying all i would still caution anyone tho who thinks they actually see
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 20:36 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  25. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Jesper, Thanks very much for the three PDF maps of the area and the referral to Google Earth. When Google Earth debuted, I tried it, but it did not work for
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 21:15 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
  26. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    as you say could not be very much higher please be aware the map if it can be believed shows the tripoint 2 distinct levels above the normal water level of the
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 21:37 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  27. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    I have gone to Jesper s source, zoomed in, and captured a clearer version for our interpretation. It is attached. First, the contours are in feet, not meters.
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 23:02 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@wildblue.net>)
  28. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    agreed about all of the following except i would still say the tripoint is not necessarily within altho at least partly surrounded by your relatively flat
    Sep 05, 2006 @ 23:29 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  29. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    & come to think of it i keep liking my sloping natural arrowhead chink shoulder guess better when i try to think of how this outlandish location might have
    Sep 06, 2006 @ 01:09 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  30. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    examples of maps depicting kztmuz not as a completely arbitrary cardinal tee junction such as might fall indiscrimately anywhere but as a slightly more wye
    Sep 06, 2006 @ 15:02 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
  31. Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    ok never mind i figured it out & it seems to me that my arrowhead elevation situated about 200m west of the dubiously indicated tripoint position is indeed
    Sep 06, 2006 @ 17:36 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  32. SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    Terrain box is checked - good At the dashboard you must have noticed the key pad with arrows and the red dot, go right and you see the rotate right and tilt
    Sep 06, 2006 @ 17:56 - Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
  33. Re: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
    thanx again got it & have been playing with it all day very nice indeed & you already realize these border depictions cant be trusted at all except as spurious
    Sep 07, 2006 @ 03:28 - aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)