--- "Lowell G. McManus" <
lgm@...> wrote:
> Both of the Live Local links in your reply work for
> me. I'm not clear
> on what you're getting when you go to them.
great
i still get nothing
or rather to be perfectly clear i get a blank white
screen
both normally & also when i try to go via my hotmail
account
which for some reason doesnt activate any links at all
but i am not much for jumping thru hoops anyway
so cant you just capture & send us whatever it is you
are talking about
or help us out of your predicament some other way
but in any case
whatever you may be seeing there
please understand i dont think we are talking about a
salt pan here
whether wet or dry
nor any crack or sink
etymological speculations to the contrary
nothwithstanding
but a fairly vertical palisade
at or near the location of the tripoint
which thus might fall either beneath or atop or even
right on the edge of the plateau
perhaps somewhat like a wall of the llano estacado but
only moreso
> Apparently, though, one
> must be logged in to access Windows Live Local.
> It's free, but you must
> jump through the hoop. All you need to log in is an
> MSN Hotmail, MSN
> Messenger, or Microsoft Passport account (all of
> which are free). Any
> of those can be used as your Windows Live ID to log
> in. I have mine set
> to automatically remember me and log me in whenever
> I go to a site that
> need it, so I didn't remember that it was required.
>
> Getting an ID is worth it, because Live Local has
> several advantages
> over Google Earth (which also has a few of its own).
> Also, Live Local
> uses USGS aerial photos in the USA for the
> close-ups, but they're newer
> than those at TerraServer, and you can dynamically
> pan and zoom them
> with your mouse (just like you can with the
> satellite photos on Live
> Local and Google Earth). That alone is worth the
> price of admission!
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly undelineated &
> definitely elusive
>
>
> > sounds interesting but
> > is this tinyurl working normally
> >
> > it quickly redirects my browser to
> >
>
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=41.619802~54.78123&style=h&lvl=7&scene=1004144
> > but this page then does nothing
> > just like its main page also does
> > http://local.live.com/
> > so maybe that whole site or function is down
> > whatever it may be or mean
> >
> > the tinyurl site itself seems to be working fine
> >
> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:
> >
> >> There's a different NASA satellite view of the
> >> tripoint on Windows Live
> >> Local at http://tinyurl.com/lw7uy . This one
> shows
> >> depression along the
> >> Chink Kaplankyr without water. The boundaries
> are
> >> better shown and
> >> perhaps more precise than on Google Earth. If
> you
> >> keep zooming in, the
> >> satellite image changes to one from Harris
> >> Corp./Earthstar Geographics
> >> that shows the Chink Kaplankyr in a wetter
> >> condition.
> >>
> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> >> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> >> reportedly undelineated &
> >> definitely elusive
> >>
> >>
> >> > not sure about the etymology nor the degree of
> >> > generality
> >> > but chink is evidently at least the local
> probably
> >> > kazak or russian name for any edge of this
> crumbly
> >> > ustyurt plateau of which this kaplankyr spur is
> a
> >> part
> >> > & the word is sometimes translated as
> >> > abrupt seashore
> >> > or abrupt border
> >> >
> >> > here is a picture of a nearby but probably
> >> different
> >> > chink
> >> > with a resident skink i think
> >> > http://www.atyrau-city.kz/KCS/Book1/012.jpg
> >> > or perhaps it is the same chink but a different
> >> spur
> >> > named mangystau in this case
> >> > but in any case a few hundred km to the
> northwest
> >> of
> >> > kztmuz
> >> > & in fact at the opposite shoulder of the same
> >> plateau
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx?TextLatitude=39.45&TextLongitude=-98.907&TextAltitude=0&TextSelectedEntity=39070&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Medium&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=mangystau&MapStylesList=Comprehensive&ZoomOnMapClickCheck=on
> >> >
> >> > what astonished or perhaps rather amused me so
> >> much
> >> > about this claim of a nondelineated tripoint
> was
> >> > first
> >> > tripoints arent supposed to be delineated
> because
> >> they
> >> > arent linear
> >> > & second
> >> > this particular one appears to lie at the
> >> convergence
> >> > of 3 perfectly geodetic border line segments
> >> > all of them seemingly very clearly delimited
> since
> >> > soviet times & now reportedly fully delineated
> if
> >> not
> >> > also demarcated
> >> >
> >> > but now that you mention it
> >> > crumbly vertical ground can present a special
> >> problem
> >> > for monumentation
> >> > & perhaps it is only this that our possibly
> >> > misinformed or careless informant had in mind
> >> > if anything
> >> >
> >> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Exactly. The NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ATLAS OF THE
> >> WORLD
> >> >> shows this and the other similar oblong area
> to
> >> the
> >> >> southeast as a basin below sea level called
> >> "Chink
> >> >> Kaplankyr." I suspect that "Chink" might be
> >> cognate
> >> >> with the English "chink" (crack) or "sink"
> (low
> >> >> area) via some common Proto-Indo-European
> etymon.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
> >> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 7:56 AM
> >> >> Subject: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> >> >> reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you make of this
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.307729,55.994568&spn=0.089619,0.159645&t=k
> >> >> ? saltlake perhaps?
> >> >>
> >> >> That could explain why it's hard to delimit
> the
> >> >> place and perhaps even mark it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jesper
> >> >> --
> >> >> Borderbase - your online guide to
> international
> >> >> borders and tripoints
> >> >> http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase
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