Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
Date: Sep 04, 2006 @ 14:35
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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> --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=41.619802~54.78123&style=h&lvl=7&scene=1004144
>
> > Both of the Live Local links in your reply work
> for
> > me. I'm not clear
> > on what you're getting when you go to them.
>
> great
> i still get nothing
> or rather to be perfectly clear i get a blank white
> screen
> both normally & also when i try to go via my hotmail
> account
> which for some reason doesnt activate any links at
> all
>
> but i am not much for jumping thru hoops anyway
> so cant you just capture & send us whatever it is
> you
> are talking about
> or help us out of your predicament some other way
>
> but in any case
> whatever you may be seeing there
> please understand i dont think we are talking about
> a
> salt pan here
> whether wet or dry
> nor any crack or sink
> etymological speculations to the contrary
> nothwithstanding
> but a fairly vertical palisade
> at or near the location of the tripoint
> which thus might fall either beneath or atop or even
> right on the edge of the plateau
>
> perhaps somewhat like a wall of the llano estacado
> but
> only moreso
>
> > Apparently, though, one
> > must be logged in to access Windows Live Local.
> > It's free, but you must
> > jump through the hoop. All you need to log in is
> an
> > MSN Hotmail, MSN
> > Messenger, or Microsoft Passport account (all of
> > which are free). Any
> > of those can be used as your Windows Live ID to
> log
> > in. I have mine set
> > to automatically remember me and log me in
> whenever
> > I go to a site that
> > need it, so I didn't remember that it was
> required.
> >
> > Getting an ID is worth it, because Live Local has
> > several advantages
> > over Google Earth (which also has a few of its
> own).
> > Also, Live Local
> > uses USGS aerial photos in the USA for the
> > close-ups, but they're newer
> > than those at TerraServer, and you can dynamically
> > pan and zoom them
> > with your mouse (just like you can with the
> > satellite photos on Live
> > Local and Google Earth). That alone is worth the
> > price of admission!
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 6:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> > reportedly undelineated &
> > definitely elusive
> >
> >
> > > sounds interesting but
> > > is this tinyurl working normally
> > >
> > > it quickly redirects my browser to
> > >
> >
>
> > > but this page then does nothinghttp://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx?TextLatitude=39.45&TextLongitude=-98.907&TextAltitude=0&TextSelectedEntity=39070&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Medium&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=mangystau&MapStylesList=Comprehensive&ZoomOnMapClickCheck=on
> > > just like its main page also does
> > > http://local.live.com/
> > > so maybe that whole site or function is down
> > > whatever it may be or mean
> > >
> > > the tinyurl site itself seems to be working fine
> > >
> > > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There's a different NASA satellite view of the
> > >> tripoint on Windows Live
> > >> Local at http://tinyurl.com/lw7uy . This one
> > shows
> > >> depression along the
> > >> Chink Kaplankyr without water. The boundaries
> > are
> > >> better shown and
> > >> perhaps more precise than on Google Earth. If
> > you
> > >> keep zooming in, the
> > >> satellite image changes to one from Harris
> > >> Corp./Earthstar Geographics
> > >> that shows the Chink Kaplankyr in a wetter
> > >> condition.
> > >>
> > >> Lowell G. McManus
> > >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> > >> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:16 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> > >> reportedly undelineated &
> > >> definitely elusive
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > not sure about the etymology nor the degree
> of
> > >> > generality
> > >> > but chink is evidently at least the local
> > probably
> > >> > kazak or russian name for any edge of this
> > crumbly
> > >> > ustyurt plateau of which this kaplankyr spur
> is
> > a
> > >> part
> > >> > & the word is sometimes translated as
> > >> > abrupt seashore
> > >> > or abrupt border
> > >> >
> > >> > here is a picture of a nearby but probably
> > >> different
> > >> > chink
> > >> > with a resident skink i think
> > >> > http://www.atyrau-city.kz/KCS/Book1/012.jpg
> > >> > or perhaps it is the same chink but a
> different
> > >> spur
> > >> > named mangystau in this case
> > >> > but in any case a few hundred km to the
> > northwest
> > >> of
> > >> > kztmuz
> > >> > & in fact at the opposite shoulder of the
> same
> > >> plateau
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
> > >> >=== message truncated ===
> > >> > what astonished or perhaps rather amused me
> so
> > >> much
> > >> > about this claim of a nondelineated tripoint
> > was
> > >> > first
> > >> > tripoints arent supposed to be delineated
> > because
> > >> they
> > >> > arent linear
> > >> > & second
> > >> > this particular one appears to lie at the
> > >> convergence
> > >> > of 3 perfectly geodetic border line segments
> > >> > all of them seemingly very clearly delimited
> > since
> > >> > soviet times & now reportedly fully
> delineated
> > if
> > >> not
> > >> > also demarcated
> > >> >
> > >> > but now that you mention it
> > >> > crumbly vertical ground can present a special
> > >> problem
> > >> > for monumentation
> > >> > & perhaps it is only this that our possibly
> > >> > misinformed or careless informant had in mind
> > >> > if anything
> > >> >
> > >> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>
> > wrote:
>