sounds interesting but
is this tinyurl working normally

it quickly redirects my browser to
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=41.619802~54.78123&style=h&lvl=7&scene=1004144
but this page then does nothing
just like its main page also does
http://local.live.com/
so maybe that whole site or function is down
whatever it may be or mean

the tinyurl site itself seems to be working fine

--- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:

> There's a different NASA satellite view of the
> tripoint on Windows Live
> Local at http://tinyurl.com/lw7uy . This one shows
> depression along the
> Chink Kaplankyr without water. The boundaries are
> better shown and
> perhaps more precise than on Google Earth. If you
> keep zooming in, the
> satellite image changes to one from Harris
> Corp./Earthstar Geographics
> that shows the Chink Kaplankyr in a wetter
> condition.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly undelineated &
> definitely elusive
>
>
> > not sure about the etymology nor the degree of
> > generality
> > but chink is evidently at least the local probably
> > kazak or russian name for any edge of this crumbly
> > ustyurt plateau of which this kaplankyr spur is a
> part
> > & the word is sometimes translated as
> > abrupt seashore
> > or abrupt border
> >
> > here is a picture of a nearby but probably
> different
> > chink
> > with a resident skink i think
> > http://www.atyrau-city.kz/KCS/Book1/012.jpg
> > or perhaps it is the same chink but a different
> spur
> > named mangystau in this case
> > but in any case a few hundred km to the northwest
> of
> > kztmuz
> > & in fact at the opposite shoulder of the same
> plateau
> >
> >
>

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx?TextLatitude=39.45&TextLongitude=-98.907&TextAltitude=0&TextSelectedEntity=39070&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Medium&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=mangystau&MapStylesList=Comprehensive&ZoomOnMapClickCheck=on

> >
> > what astonished or perhaps rather amused me so
> much
> > about this claim of a nondelineated tripoint was
> > first
> > tripoints arent supposed to be delineated because
> they
> > arent linear
> > & second
> > this particular one appears to lie at the
> convergence
> > of 3 perfectly geodetic border line segments
> > all of them seemingly very clearly delimited since
> > soviet times & now reportedly fully delineated if
> not
> > also demarcated
> >
> > but now that you mention it
> > crumbly vertical ground can present a special
> problem
> > for monumentation
> > & perhaps it is only this that our possibly
> > misinformed or careless informant had in mind
> > if anything
> >
> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly. The NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ATLAS OF THE
> WORLD
> >> shows this and the other similar oblong area to
> the
> >> southeast as a basin below sea level called
> "Chink
> >> Kaplankyr." I suspect that "Chink" might be
> cognate
> >> with the English "chink" (crack) or "sink" (low
> >> area) via some common Proto-Indo-European etymon.
> >>
> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 7:56 AM
> >> Subject: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> >> reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you make of this
> >>
> >
>

http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.307729,55.994568&spn=0.089619,0.159645&t=k

> >> ? saltlake perhaps?
> >>
> >> That could explain why it's hard to delimit the
> >> place and perhaps even mark it.
> >>
> >> Jesper
> >> --
> >> Borderbase - your online guide to international
> >> borders and tripoints
> >> http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

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> >> Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På vegne
> af
> >> aletheia kallos
> >> Sendt: 31. august 2006 15:23
> >> Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Emne: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly
> >> undelineated & definitely elusive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/08/295991D6-AB19-4C80-93B4-A5859F110120.html

> >> but what could this mean
> >> for kzuz is reportedly fully delimited & likely
> >> even
> >> marked by now per
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11250

> >> while on tmuz all border questions were
> reportedly
> >> settled years ago
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://www.newscentralasia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=638

> >> & demarcation is supposedly well under way
> there
> >> too
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://www.newscentralasia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1059

> >>
> >> reference map
> >> http://www.dntours.com/map.htm
> >> from
> >> http://www.dntours.com/dashoguz/kaplankyr.htm
> >>
> >> kztmuz is in the chink kaplankyr
> >> which is the southernmost spur of the ustyurt
> >> plateau
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx?TextLatitude=38.3893924187585&TextLongitude=39.4382328526111&TextAltitude=8&TextSelectedEntity=9241499&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Medium&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=ustyurt&MapStylesList=Comprehensive&ZoomOnMapClickCheck=on&ResultsListbox=38.3893924187585%3B39.4382328526111%3B8%3B9241499%3BHazar+%5BKavak%5D%2C+Elaz??%2C+Turkey%3BMedium%3BComprehensive

> >>
> >> the best if not the only known tour of the area
> >> http://stantours.com/tm_syl_ee_kap.html
> >> gets to within 100 km of the target
> >> at chagyl & kyzyl kaya or gyzylgaya on day 3
> >> & again at lake sarakamysh & kaplankyr national
> >> park
> >> on day 7
> >>
> >>
> >
>

http://enrin.grida.no/biodiv/biodiv/national/turkmen/htmfiles/mapres.htm

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