Subject: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive
Date: Sep 05, 2006 @ 18:47
Author: Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
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No fancy results of terrain (or 3d) to show as the entire areas is very flat. The tripoint itself is at water level at 0m and the surroundings do no go higher than 160 meters.
 
But please learn to use the free Google Earth, downloadable at http://earth.google.com , yourself.
 
Jesper
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Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af aletheia kallos
Sendt: 5. september 2006 20:31
Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Emne: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly undelineated & definitely elusive

sounds great

what does turn on terrain mean
or how do you do that

or better yet
could you just beam up the result for this position

--- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@nicolette. dk>
wrote:

>
For those who know how to operate Google Earth:
>
> Please turn on
terrain, tilt the image and find the
> area flat. I find Google
>
Earth quite reliable for terrains.
>
> Jesper
>
>
--
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> borders and
tripoints
>
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>
>
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>
[mailto:BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com] På
> vegne af Lowell G. McManus
> Sendt: 4. september 2006
22:38
> Til:
href="mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com
>
Emne: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is reportedly
> undelineated
&
> definitely elusive
>
>
>
> Your and my
estimations of the tripoint location are
> quite close. What
>
makes you think, though, that this is on a "fairly
> steep gradient," when
> the darkness in both photos shows the presence of
>
water--especially when
> compared with the photo when the area was dry?
I
> perceive it as a wet
> flat of combined mud and salt, with the
darkest
> areas being shallow
> standing salt water. I take your
arrowhead and the
> other scarifications
> to be the vestiges of
flood flows that washed down
> from the steeps and
> deposited
their sedimentary load in weird patterns
> in what was standing
>
water at the time, but that rise a few mucky inches
> above the water at
> the level depicted. Your arrowhead seems to me a
> delta.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@yahoo.
> <mailto:aletheiak% 40yahoo.com>
> com>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
> yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly undelineated &
> definitely elusive
>
> > or better yet
> > since the google satpic ultimately gives much more
> > detailed topo isography than the encarta map
> > provided it is aimed & centered correctly
> > as it is here to the best of my & its combined
> ability
> >
> > http://maps.
>
<http://maps. google.com/ ?ie=UTF8& om=1&z=14& ll=41.317206, 55.994568& spn=0.0315
> 88,0.058708& t=h>
>
google.com/? ie=UTF8&om= 1&z=14&ll= 41.317206, 55.994568& spn=0.031588, 0.058708& t
> =h
> > i would now go so far as to make kztmuz somewhere
> very
> > near the tip of the distinctive symmetrical
> arrowhead
> > cum needle tip centered there
> > when zoomed all the way in
> >
> > & thus very likely on at least fairly steep
> gradient
> >
> > clear & credible down to fairly narrow parameters
> but
> > still only so far
> > admittedly
> >
> > but how does that compare with the position
> predicted
> > or indicated by your restricted source
> >
> > --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@yahoo.
> <mailto:aletheiak% 40yahoo.com> com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> but it is clear as well as credible
> >> when i zoom encarta all the way in for topography
> &
> >> boundaries
> >>
> > http://encarta.
>
<http://encarta. msn.com/encnet/ features/ mapcenter/ map.aspx? TextLatitude= 41.3
>
99513160184476& TextLongitude= 56.0290513156997 46&TextAltitude= 8&TextSelectedE
>
ntity=10107400& SearchEnc= false&MapStyle= Comprehensive& MapSize=Medium& MapStyl
>
eSelectedIndex= 0&searchTextMap= goklenkuyu& MapStylesList= Comprehensive& ZoomOn
>
MapClickCheck= on&ResultsListbo x=43.28995411049 97%3B59.24120180 38095%3B5% 3B10
>
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> BComprehensive>
>
msn.com/encnet/ features/ mapcenter/ map.aspx? TextLatitude= 41.3995131601844 76&T
>
extLongitude= 56.0290513156997 46&TextAltitude= 8&TextSelectedEn tity=10107400& S
>
earchEnc=false& MapStyle= Comprehensive& MapSize=Medium& MapStyleSelected Index=0
>
&searchTextMap= goklenkuyu& MapStylesList= Comprehensive& ZoomOnMapClickCh eck=on
>
&ResultsListbox= 43.2899541104997 %3B59.2412018038 095%3B5%3B101074 00%3BQoraqal
>
poghiston+%28autono mous+republic% 29%2C+Uzbekistan %3BMedium% 3BComprehensive
> >> & compare google for photography
> >>
> > http://maps.
>
<http://maps. google.com/ ?ie=UTF8& z=10&ll=41. 307729,55. 994568&spn= 0.505475, 0.
> 939331&t=h&om= 1>
>
google.com/? ie=UTF8&z= 10&ll=41. 307729,55. 994568&spn= 0.505475, 0.939331& t=h&om
> =1
> >> that kztmuz is neither atop the plateau nor in
> the
> >> salt lake
> >> but somewhere among the chaotic breaks that lie
> in
> >> between
> >> as for example in these neighborhood views
> >> at top in each case
> >> http://www.stantour
> <http://www..stantour s.com/tm_ syl_ee_kap. html>
> s.com/tm_syl_ ee_kap.html
> >> http://www.ayan-
> <http://www.ayan- travel.com/ tm_syl_ee_ kap.html>
> travel.com/tm_ syl_ee_kap. html
> >>
> >> --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@yahoo.
> <mailto:aletheiak% 40yahoo.com> com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@wildblue.
> <mailto:lgm% 40wildblue. net> net>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Both of the Live Local links in your reply
> work
> >> > for
> >> > > me. I'm not clear
> >> > > on what you're getting when you go to them.
> >> >
> >> > great
> >> > i still get nothing
> >> > or rather to be perfectly clear i get a blank
> >> white
> >> > screen
> >> > both normally & also when i try to go via my
> >> hotmail
> >> > account
> >> > which for some reason doesnt activate any links
> at
> >> > all
> >> >
> >> > but i am not much for jumping thru hoops anyway
> >> > so cant you just capture & send us whatever it
> is
> >> > you
> >> > are talking about
> >> > or help us out of your predicament some other
> way
> >> >
> >> > but in any case
> >> > whatever you may be seeing there
> >> > please understand i dont think we are talking
> >> about
> >> > a
> >> > salt pan here
> >> > whether wet or dry
> >> > nor any crack or sink
> >> > etymological speculations to the contrary
> >> > nothwithstanding
> >> > but a fairly vertical palisade
> >> > at or near the location of the tripoint
> >> > which thus might fall either beneath or atop or
> >> even
> >> > right on the edge of the plateau
> >> >
> >> > perhaps somewhat like a wall of the llano
> estacado
> >> > but
> >> > only moreso
> >> >
> >> > > Apparently, though, one
> >> > > must be logged in to access Windows Live
> Local.
> >> > > It's free, but you must
> >> > > jump through the hoop. All you need to log in
> >> is
> >> > an
>
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