wow thanxx jesper for this fantastic new toy
& for the recent attachments too
electrifying all
i would still caution anyone tho
who thinks they actually see the exact tripoint
position by means of any of these tools
that the boundary depictions on them
in the case of both google earth & the topo attachment
are not merely believed to be unreliable
but have been positively recognized as being
substantially mistaken
& i believe a second false impression is being or may
be created
that
because the whole area is near or below sea level
the tripoint is therefore permanently wet or even
often wet
but even still
when i compare this best available topo to this now
greatly enhanced satpic
it appears that the tripoint is not in the lower
flatter area of the dry overflow lakebed at all
but rather in the next higher area within & or beside
that one
& in fact very near an infrequent gradient line
indicating most likely not flatness but steepness
so far as i can tell if i read & look at all this
closely
mind you i still dont actually trust any of it
but it seems to me to only further substantiate my
guess about terrain
--- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@...>
wrote:
> No fancy results of terrain (or 3d) to show as the
> entire areas is very
> flat. The tripoint itself is at water level at 0m
> and the surroundings do no
> go higher than 160 meters.
>
> But please learn to use the free Google Earth,
> downloadable at
> http://earth.google.com , yourself.
>
> Jesper
> --
> Borderbase - your online guide to international
> borders and tripoints
> http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase
>
>
> _____
>
> Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På
> vegne af aletheia kallos
> Sendt: 5. september 2006 20:31
> Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly undelineated &
> definitely elusive
>
>
>
> sounds great
>
> what does turn on terrain mean
> or how do you do that
>
> or better yet
> could you just beam up the result for this position
>
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@nicolette.
> <mailto:jesper%40nicolette.dk> dk>
> wrote:
>
> > For those who know how to operate Google Earth:
> >
> > Please turn on terrain, tilt the image and find
> the
> > area flat. I find Google
> > Earth quite reliable for terrains.
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> > --
> > Borderbase - your online guide to international
> > borders and tripoints
> > http://www.nicolett
> <http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase> e.dk/borderbase
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Fra: BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com] På
> > vegne af Lowell G. McManus
> > Sendt: 4. september 2006 22:38
> > Til: BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> reportedly
> > undelineated &
> > definitely elusive
> >
> >
> >
> > Your and my estimations of the tripoint location
> are
> > quite close. What
> > makes you think, though, that this is on a "fairly
> > steep gradient," when
> > the darkness in both photos shows the presence of
> > water--especially when
> > compared with the photo when the area was dry? I
> > perceive it as a wet
> > flat of combined mud and salt, with the darkest
> > areas being shallow
> > standing salt water. I take your arrowhead and the
> > other scarifications
> > to be the vestiges of flood flows that washed down
> > from the steeps and
> > deposited their sedimentary load in weird patterns
> > in what was standing
> > water at the time, but that rise a few mucky
> inches
> > above the water at
> > the level depicted. Your arrowhead seems to me a
> > delta.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@yahoo.
> > <mailto:aletheiak%40yahoo.com>
> > com>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@
> > <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] yikes kztmuz is
> > reportedly undelineated &
> > definitely elusive
> >
> > > or better yet
> > > since the google satpic ultimately gives much
> more
> > > detailed topo isography than the encarta map
> > > provided it is aimed & centered correctly
> > > as it is here to the best of my & its combined
> > ability
> > >
> > > http://maps.
> >
> <http://maps.
>
<http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=14&ll=41.317206,55.994568&spn=0.0315
> >
>
google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=14&ll=41.317206,55.994568&spn=0.0315
> > 88,0.058708&t=h>
> >
>
google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=14&ll=41.317206,55.994568&spn=0.031588,0.058708&t
> > =h
> > > i would now go so far as to make kztmuz
> somewhere
> > very
> > > near the tip of the distinctive symmetrical
> > arrowhead
> > > cum needle tip centered there
> > > when zoomed all the way in
> > >
> > > & thus very likely on at least fairly steep
> > gradient
> > >
> > > clear & credible down to fairly narrow
> parameters
> > but
> > > still only so far
> > > admittedly
> > >
> > > but how does that compare with the position
> > predicted
> > > or indicated by your restricted source
> > >
> > > --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@yahoo.
> > <mailto:aletheiak%40yahoo.com> com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> but it is clear as well as credible
> > >> when i zoom encarta all the way in for
> topography
> > &
> > >> boundaries
> > >>
> > > http://encarta.
> >
> <http://encarta.
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> > BComprehensive>
> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
poghiston+%28autonomous+republic%29%2C+Uzbekistan%3BMedium%3BComprehensive
> > >> & compare google for photography
> > >>
> > > http://maps.
> >
> <http://maps.
>
<http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=41.307729,55.994568&spn=0.505475,0.
> >
>
google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=41.307729,55.994568&spn=0.505475,0.
>
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