1. Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Hello all, I ve just added a picture to the photo section of BP: taken in Ft. Covington - border Québec/NY. Wouldn t it be nice to have a real party here??
    Mar 08, 2004 @ 14:27 - Peter Hering (Peter Hering <hering@...>)
  2. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    i would bring my trusty jug of old crow without even thinking about it would you make that cigar a british colombian bazuco
    Mar 08, 2004 @ 15:42 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Bar divided betw. US + CA
    We are definitely due for a Great North American Border Expedition (though, Mexico would not be included this time). Highlights: Stewart BC-Hyder AK ( a
    Mar 10, 2004 @ 00:07 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Nice job. I have been constructing (made it several months ago and added here and there) my own list - very similar to yours. Though there are a few
    Mar 10, 2004 @ 06:31 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Bar divided betw. US + CA
    I can t believe I missed Haskell, Beebe, & Canusa... and lunch with the Hurtibuse s! And dinner at Hoagie s Pizza in Newport, Vermont.
    Mar 10, 2004 @ 06:42 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
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    nice lists all & if we are really going to do the full 2week great north american border expedition without mexico but with a bazuco then lets at least
    Mar 10, 2004 @ 15:10 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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    Hmm some of those I think would have to be precluded due to practicality. And the Binational tps would be more a subject of another trip I think. ...
    Mar 11, 2004 @ 03:40 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  8. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    hahaha hey it wouldnt be impractical to just remember them would it hahaha as if an alaska to new brunswick motor tour could actually be done in the same 2
    Mar 11, 2004 @ 05:27 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  9. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Hmm 10,000 seems an awful high estimate. Closer to 6,000 I think. But regardless it seems Gold Rush is not the park I was looking for as that borders on BC,
    Mar 13, 2004 @ 07:39 - Michael Kaufman ("Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>)
  10. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    yes awful high especially if you move gold rush park from skagway to practically anywhere else since that alone could save you over 2000 miles of driving &
    Mar 13, 2004 @ 13:06 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    No way. Blaine, WA to Campobello Is. is just over 4000 by Mapquest, taking into account all of the stops. Adding a segment of Skagway to Blaine adds 1500
    Mar 13, 2004 @ 23:56 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  12. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    haha well it is true i was high in the andes thank goodness but what you are now actually saying here mike at minimum namely beginning from beaver creek of all
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 01:35 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    I was speaking concerning the stops I had in my list. And there are quite a few national car chains within range of the beginning and ending points. It s only
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 03:18 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    This sounds like a great trip! Let me find a 1968 VW Van...
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 07:51 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
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    Border Expedition experience tells us that planning doesn t mean beans to borderfreaks. I m sure expedition mastermind Peter Hering must shake his head at us
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 08:03 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  16. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA + GNABE ?why not?
    No, I m not shaking my head...:-) I m just having fun...and would LOVE to see YOU guys organizing it !!! WHY NOT?!!! Remember dear GCEBE, GEEBE and GBBE mates,
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 08:33 - Peter Hering ("Peter Hering" <hering@...>)
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    ah but mike for the sheer pleasure of disagreeing with me you are now changing not only what i said but what you said too if you start from vancouver you cant
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 14:43 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    No, no! My route is not a route at all -- merely my experience in driving across this great Dominion. Any route taken would hug the border -- though in most
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 18:21 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
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    No. I am not changing what I am saying here, nor what you said. And I am not disagreeing with you for the sake of pleasure. I am disagreeing with you for
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 23:14 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  20. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA + GNABE ?why not?
    Me too. I agree it might be best to wait a little bit for this adventure, especially since we are booked through 2005 anyway! ...
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 23:20 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  21. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Heh heh heh. My cousin once had an orange microbus from the early 70s that he bought for like $500. Unfortunately, I don t think it s around anymore. ...
    Mar 14, 2004 @ 23:29 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  22. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    The faux-hippies have them here. Perhaps we could borrow one!
    Mar 15, 2004 @ 03:18 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
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    well whatever you may or may not have changed fortunately it is all still here below to check & if you really do want to know the truth then why not spell out
    Mar 15, 2004 @ 04:24 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  24. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA + GNABE ?why not?
    You re right on many counts, Peter. And, of course, we all appreciate your hard work organizing. GCEBE, GEEBE, GBBE and the upcoming 2005 version -- Thanks!
    Mar 15, 2004 @ 04:55 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  25. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    You are either not reading what I am writing or are not understanding it. MY MILEAGE IS NOT FLY-BY MILEAGE BUT IS ROAD DISTANCE CALCULATED VIA MAPQUEST. STOP
    Mar 15, 2004 @ 08:19 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
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    ok i thought you were including all of peters & dougs stops too which are also given below indeed all your suggestions below presupposed & were stacked upon
    Mar 15, 2004 @ 13:15 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  27. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA + GNABE ?why not?
    Not including Alaska, it is possible to cover the Can-Am border in two weeks. I have driven from Sudbury, Ontario, Canada to Vancouver, BC via the northern US
    Mar 18, 2004 @ 04:43 - xachary04 ("xachary04" <xachary04@...>)
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    Why did you think that? Your original claim was directed at me. You told me that I was pushing 10,000 miles. I m not discounting anyone else s stops. All I
    Mar 18, 2004 @ 07:21 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  29. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    first of all mike nothing is more important than that you feel good so for starters please leave your problems & your shouting somewhere else & be sure to come
    Mar 18, 2004 @ 14:31 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  30. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Again, you misread and miscomprehend me. Where did I put a 2 week limit on anything? Please point this out as I never put this limit there. For some odd
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 07:25 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  31. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA cannot stand
    hahahahahahaha ok you absolutely win mike hahahahaha i couldnt stuff another byte in & had to cut from the bottom in order to even answer hahahaha so not only
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 14:06 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  32. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Dear Mr. Kaufman: Please help me out here. I cannot understand why so often BoundaryPoint members appear to become *pissed off* toward other members. I can t
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 22:11 - Carl Schubbe ("Carl Schubbe" <turtle5003@...>)
  33. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Did any of these zones join for a tripoint? Jesper
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 22:21 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
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    Dear Mr. Nielsen, I haven t the foggiest notion of what consititutes a tripoint unless it is a place (as in Sophocles Oedipus Rex where three roads meet and
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 22:23 - Carl Schubbe ("Carl Schubbe" <turtle5003@...>)
  35. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    It s actually a very interesting question, which I would like to know the answer to myself. I am not strong withjin Berlin, but there are quite some Berlin
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 22:33 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  36. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    my dear turtle & i would beg you stay at least long enough to read this except i believe i have successfully turned off your email while not daring to revoke
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 22:53 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  37. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA cannot stand
    Ok well at least you seem to be understanding me better, and I understanding you better. I do enjoy reading your try pointing and tripointing accounts. I
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 23:27 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  38. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Dear m06079 Thankyou for your kind words and help. I had absolutely *no idea* how much conversation went on amongst the members of BoundaryPoint! I shall,
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 23:29 - Carl Schubbe ("Carl Schubbe" <turtle5003@...>)
  39. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    excellent carl & i have a feeling our sharpshooters will be zeroing in on your question about the occupation zone conjunctions before very much longer now that
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 00:01 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
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    I think people use you said, he said, I said, to shed light on what is currently being said. Not so much for pissing off but more for coming to
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 01:35 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  41. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA cannot stand
    ... yes yes made it worth our going thru the ceiling didnt it I do enjoy ... thank you mike that is gratification personified I ... is that gnastp as in nasty
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 02:44 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  42. Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    you are right because you are here mike but here or anywhere anyone who gets pissed off does so at their own risk & expense it is not part of the program here
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 03:23 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  43. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Exactly true; truly exact. ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 04:33 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  44. tripoints & sector boundaries Berlin, was: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    Regarding tripoints: Yes there were two. 1. SU/FR/UK sectors, near the port Nordhafen in the canal Spandauer Schiffahrtskanal 2. SU/UK/US sectors, at
    Mar 22, 2004 @ 14:56 - anorak222 ("anorak222" <listen@...>)
  45. Re: tripoints & sector boundaries Berlin, was: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    ok wolfie is that you i knew you would come thru for this so we are really talking 1945frgbsu1991 on the one hand & 1945gbsuus1972 plus 1972gbsuus1991 on the
    Mar 23, 2004 @ 16:34 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  46. Re: tripoints & sector boundaries Berlin, was: Bar divided betw. US + CA
    I m not sure, but it looks like the other sectoral tripoint was moved as well following a boundary change involving a small parcel of land along the Kieler
    Mar 23, 2004 @ 17:11 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)