Again, you misread and miscomprehend me. Where did I
put a 2 week limit on anything? Please point this out
as I never put this limit there. For some odd reason,
you keep speaking of this as though I have. Second,
reality is to my liking, as is the reality is that my
trip does not necessitate 10,000 miles. Or 9500
miles. Or 11,000 miles. etc etc etc. If you would
like to plan a trip that does take 10,000 miles that
is fine. No one is stopping you. In fact I'd enjoy
seeing your plan of one. But that does not concern
the itinerary I personally came up with. You may
enjoy driving random roads from the start to finish,
but if you wish to do so, you should account for the
distances in your own trip, not force them into
someone elses. Perhaps you could plan a GNASTP (Great
North American Serendipitous Tripointing
Peregrination) which would include thousands of miles
of allowances for driving roads from start to finish.
But that is not applicable here.
Also, I do feel good, as I hope you do too. I use
emphasis to point out where you are misunderstanding
me, since it seems you quite often do. And I think
that perhaps it is you who should take a bp break
until you stop calling people "jerks" if they happen
to bring up a topic which rankles you.
--- acroorca2002 <
orc@...> wrote:
> first of all mike
> nothing is more important than that you feel good
>
> so for starters
> please leave your problems & your shouting somewhere
> else
>
> & be sure to come back here as soon as you are
> feeling better
>
>
> puzzles we got
>
> problems not
>
>
>
> secondly
> the reason i thought you didnt disallow peters &
> dougs stops is
> that you did explicitly disallow all my own
> suggested stops below
> but not any of the others
> so far as i could tell
>
> so i figured
> if you meant to disallow the others too
> then you would have said so too
>
> & now that you have said so
> i do understand
>
> you arent discounting them
>
> you are simply not counting them
>
> but mine you are actually discounting as well as not
> counting
>
>
> so this is finally
> exclusively & entirely
> your own private itinerary that you are measuring up
>
> i agree to that
>
>
> & i also agree you should measure it exactly however
> you like
> & should certainly ignore me & reality too
> & particularly all the others who think 2 weeks isnt
> enough time
> for alaska & new brunswick in any case whatever the
> mileage
> especially if thinking about us gets you
> disconnected from who
> you really are
>
>
> thats right
>
> unless reality is entirely to your liking
> i say ignore it in favor of your dreams
>
> & i will be with you 100 percent if you should do
> that
>
>
>
> thirdly
> i havent been directing & am not directing anything
> at you
> but have only been talking to you
> & addressing what i thought you meant
> just as i am also addressing now what i think you
> mean now
>
>
> & in my view
> you are fine
> & indeed divine
> whatever you mean
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> Kaufman
> <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > Why did you think that? Your original claim was
> > directed at me. You told me that I was pushing
> 10,000
> > miles. I'm not discounting anyone else's stops.
> All
> > I was doing was speaking of a list I had put
> together
> > myself. Of course final itineraries are a
> > collaborative effort. But if you were speaking of
> all
> > of the stops you should have said so instead of
> > directing it at me. Such lack of specificity
> > (compounded by all your changes) causes problems.
> And
> > if you want my list - It IS below!
> >
> > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > ok
> > > i thought you were including all of peters &
> dougs
> > > stops too
> > > which are also given below
> > >
> > > indeed all your suggestions below presupposed &
> were
> > > stacked
> > > upon theirs
> > >
> > > & i have been responding only to the cumulative
> list
> > > here
> > > rather than to some unknown selection from among
> > > them all
> > >
> > >
> > > & when did you start leaving theirs out anyway
> > >
> > > i admit that surprises me more than any of your
> > > other changes
> > >
> > > but still no problem
> > >
> > > lets just list all your stops in detail anyway
> > > somewhere if not here
> > > whatever they are
> > > as pete too appears to suggest now
> > > or there will be no actual outcome or output at
> all
> > >
> > > just more garbage in & more garbage out
> > >
> > >
> > > but once we actually know what we are actually
> > > talking about
> > > if ever
> > > then i am sure we could really do it some
> justice
> > > here at bp in
> > > terms of precision try pointing
> > >
> > >
> > > also
> > > by flyby i only meant freeway or bypass miles
> > > not airline miles
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > Kaufman
> > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > You are either not reading what I am writing
> or
> > > are
> > > > not understanding it. MY MILEAGE IS NOT
> FLY-BY
> > > > MILEAGE BUT IS ROAD DISTANCE CALCULATED VIA
> > > MAPQUEST.
> > > > STOP TO STOP. You are also ignoring the fact
> that
> > > I
> > > > said "I was speaking concerning the stops I
> had
> > > my
> > > > list." (fortunately that is below so you can
> read
> > > > that too). Please reread what is in my list.
> You
> > > can
> > > > rent cars in Vancouver and Bangor. The
> mileage IS
> > > > 7540. That is ROAD distance, not some crude
> > > > estimation. If you seem to be in such utter
> > > > disbelief, why dont you actually calculate it
> out
> > > on
> > > > Mapquest instead of just assuming you are
> right?
> > > Your
> > > > addition of 1200 miles is completely
> unwarranted
> > > as it
> > > > is ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. And your 700
> > > serendipitous
> > > > miles may be appropriate for you, but not
> > > necessarily
> > > > for everyone else. And it is not necessary to
> > > expand
> > > > upon the plus for the simple reasone that
> COMMON
> > > SENSE
> > > > tells you hotels plus food does not come to
> 2460
> > > > miles!
> > > >
> > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > > well whatever you may or may not have
> changed
> > > > > fortunately it is all still here below to
> check
> > > > >
> > > > > & if you really do want to know the truth
> > > > > then why not spell out & measure up your
> full
> > > > > itinerary as it is
> > > > > rather than just the approximate fly by
> mileages
> > > for
> > > > > some of it
> > > > >
> > > > > & likewise why not actually estimate the
> parts
> > > you
> > > > > cant spell out
> > > > > rather than shrugging them off with a vague
> plus
> > > > > sign
> > > > > as such variables can be guesstimed fairly
> well
> > > from
> > > > > experience
> > > > >
> > > > > until you do
> > > > > i can only continue to imagine we might be
> > > talking
> > > > > about the
> > > > > same trip
> > > > > & to continue to figure it very crudely as
> > > follows
> > > > >
> > > > > vancouver to beaver creek to hyder to
> vancouver
> > > is
> > > > > 3600 miles
> > > > >
> > > > > vancouver to international falls to detroit
> to
> > > > > niagara to estcourt to
> > > > > campobello to bangor all direct is 4000
> miles
> > > > >
> > > > > & tho you claim this 4000 takes account of
> all
> > > the
> > > > > stops
> > > > > i dont see how it can
> > > > > because many of them involve substantial
> side
> > > trips
> > > > >
> > > > > indeed the dozen or so mentioned
> destinations
> > > that
> > > > > are not on
> > > > > this direct route add perhaps 1200 miles by
> my
> > > own
> > > > > wild guess
> > > > >
> > > > > serendipity & unplanned necessity & mistakes
> etc
> > > add
> > > > > perhaps
> > > > > another 700 miles
> > > > > or more
> > > > >
> > > > > so my grand total thus far is perhaps 9500
> miles
> > > or
> > > > > more
> > > > > which may not be so very different from what
> you
> > > are
> > > > > calling
> > > > > 7540 miles plus
> > > > > perhaps without fully realizing just how big
> > > that
> > > > > plus must be
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > btw
> > > > > last time i tried
> > > > > it wasnt possible to rent a driveaway
> dropoff
> > > either
> > > > > to or from
> > > > > alaska
> > > > > so that may not actually be an option for
> you
> > > either
> > > > >
> > > > > perhaps you could do it in whitehorse
> > > > > but
> > > > > for the same economic reasons
> > > > > i wouldnt count on it
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> Michael
> > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > No. I am not changing what I am saying
> here,
> > > nor
> > > > > what
> > > > > > you said. And I am not disagreeing with
> you
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > sake of pleasure. I am disagreeing with
> you
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > sake of truth. And I presented several
> > > options
> > > > > for
> > > > > > arriving at distances. One of these was
> to
> > > start
> > > > > at
> > > > > > around Beaver Creek. Another, LONGER
> route
> > > was to
> > > > > > rent a car in Vancouver, drive to Beaver
> > > Creek,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > drive to Blaine. THIS route gives 7540
> miles
> > > > > > (finishing at Bangor). Any route starting
> at
> > > the
> > > > > > vicinity of Beaver Creek would be less, as
> > > there
> > > > > are
> > > > > > in fact airports and car rental facilities
> > > closer
> > > > > to
> > > > > > Beaver Creek than Vancouver. Taking the
> > > LONGER
> > > > > route
> > > > > > of Vancouver to Beaver Creek to Blaine to
> > > Bangor,
> > > > > we
> > > > > > have 7540 + stops, hotels, food. Which
> still
> > > > > isn't
> > > > > > 10,000 miles.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- acroorca2002 <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > ah but mike
> > > > > > > for the sheer pleasure of disagreeing
> with
> > > me
> > > > > > > you are now changing not only what i
> said
> > > but
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > you said too
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if you start from vancouver
> > > > > > > you cant very well start from beaver
> creek
> > > too
> > > > > > > can you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & thats only a few thousand extra miles
> you
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > havent counted
> > > > > > > yet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but i see now even peter
> > > > > > > who started it all
> > > > > > > has backed out
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & it sounds like dougs thru route wont
> even
> > > be
> > > > > > > leaving the
> > > > > > > transcanada highway
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so that may leave only you & me to
> actually
> > > go
> > > > > > > border freaking
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hmm
> > > > > > > so how about making it a tripointing
> > > expedition
> > > > > > > after all then
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Michael
> > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I was speaking concerning the stops I
> had
> > > in
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > list.
> > > > > > > > And there are quite a few national car
> > > chains
> > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > range of the beginning and ending
> points.
> > > > > It's
> > > > > > > only a
> > > > > > > > little over 110 miles from Campobello
> to
> > > > > Bangor.
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > it's only 30 miles from Blaine to
> > > Vancouver.
> > > > > > > > (Vancouver and Bangor both have
> airports
> > > and
> > > > > car
> > > > > > > > rental facilities.) This 140+ miles
> plus
> > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > turns
> > > > > > > > plus driving to restaurants and hotels
> > > etc,
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > doesn't come close to 2600 miles!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > haha
> > > > > > > > > well it is true i was high in the
> andes
> > > > > > > > > thank goodness
> > > > > > > > > but what you are now actually saying
> > > here
> > > > > mike
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > minimum
> > > > > > > > > namely
> > > > > > > > > beginning from beaver creek of all
> > > places as
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > really could
> > > > > > > > > & then skipping skagway now
> > > > > > > > > to hyder to point roberts to
> > > international
> > > > > falls
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > detroit to niagara
> > > > > > > > > to estcourt to campobello
> > > > > > > > > via all the other stops mentioned
> below
> > > by
> > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > but me too
> > > > > > > > > & within the terms of the actual 2
> week
> > > tour
> > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > contemplated
> > > > > > > > > & even assuming direct travel & no
> wrong
> > > > > turns
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > serendipity
> > > > > > > > > which of course you cant because you
> > > wont
> > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > do that
> > > > > > > > > & even assuming you could just end
> the
> > > trip
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > campobello too
> > > > > > > > > which you cant do either
> > > > > > > > > will still add up on the odometer to
> far
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > the 7400 miles
> > > > > > > > > you are seeing on your roadmap
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so in the event of reality
> > > > > > > > > if any
> > > > > > > > > rather than teleportation to the
> start &
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > etc etc
> > > > > > > > > you are certainly pushing if not
> > > actually
> > > > > into 5
> > > > > > > > > digits of miles
> > > > > > > > > even with this foreshortened
> itinerary
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > & if you dont believe me
> > > > > > > > > well then by all means try it with
> or
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > but i dont see how anyone could
> actually
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > try to
> > > > > > > > > make such a
> > > > > > > > > try under any circumstances
> > > > > > > > > let alone with a whole carload of
> people
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > & i say this having already driven
> about
> > > 99
> > > > > > > percent
> > > > > > > > > of it myself
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > No way. Blaine, WA to Campobello
> Is.
> > > is
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > 4000 by Mapquest, taking into
> account
> > > all
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > stops. Adding a segment of
> Skagway to
> > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > adds
> > > > > > > > > > 1500 miles. So that makes 5500
> miles.
> > > A
> > > > > > > Yukon
> > > > > > > > > > crossing near Beaver Creek could
> be
> > > done
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > 1700
> > > > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > > (distance to Blaine), which would
> make
> > > > > 5700.
> > > > > > > Even
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you were thinking of a round trip
> > > segment
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > > > > to Yukon to Blaine, you would
> still
> > > only
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > 7400
> > > > > > > > > > miles. Any of these figures are
> much
> > > > > closer
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > than 11,000. Were your
> calculations
> > > done
> > > > > > > while on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > aformentioned cocaine? heh heh
> heh ;)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > yes awful high
> > > > > > > > > > > especially if you move gold rush
> > > park
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > skagway
> > > > > > > > > > > to practically
> > > > > > > > > > > anywhere else
> > > > > > > > > > > since that alone could save you
> over
> > > > > 2000
> > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > > > > & make your guess of closer to
> 6000
> > > > > miles
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > correct
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > but if you moved gold rush park
> to
> > > the
> > > > > yukon
> > > > > > > > > > > as it appears you may still be
> > > intending
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > then you would be closer to
> 11000
> > > miles
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > "Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman"
> > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm 10,000 seems an awful high
> > > > > estimate.
> > > > > > > > > Closer
> > > > > > > > > > > to 6,000 I
> > > > > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > But regardless it seems Gold
> Rush
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > park
> > > > > > > > > > > I was
> > > > > > > > > > > looking for
> > > > > > > > > > > > as that borders on BC, not YK.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > > "acroorca2002"
> > > > > > > > > > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hey it wouldnt be
> impractical to
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as if an alaska to new
> brunswick
> > > > > motor
> > > > > > > tour
> > > > > > > > > > > could actually be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > done in the same 2 weeks
> anyway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > even without any of the
> other
> > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > trips & stops
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > well maybe if you had enough
> > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but it looks like you are
> > > already
> > > > > > > pushing
> > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > miles there
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm some of those I think
> > > would
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > > > precluded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to practicality. And
> the
> > > > > > > Binational
> > > > > > > > > tps
> > > > > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more a subject of another
> trip
> > > I
> > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- acroorca2002
> <orc@o...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice lists all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & if we are really going
> to
> > > do
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > 2week
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great north american
> border
> > > > > > > expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without mexico but with
> a
> > > bazuco
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then lets at least
> remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hans island cadk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isle verte cafr
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & the diomedes ruus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the twin virgin idaho
> > > british
> > > > > > > columbia
> > > > > > > > > > > tripoints
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & others equally causal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes practically
> > > coincident
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > choices
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tho i wont spoil it by
> > > telling
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > ones til we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get close
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > Murray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't believe I
> missed
> > > > > Haskell,
> > > > > > > > > Beebe, &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canusa... and lunch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hurtibuse's! And
> dinner
> > > at
> > > > > > > Hoagie's
> > > > > > > > > Pizza
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newport,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vermont.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 9,
> 2004,
> > > at
> > > > > > > 10:31
> > > > > > > > > PM,
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice job. I have
> been
> > > > > > > constructing
> > > > > > > > > > > (made it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months ago and added
> > > here
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > there)
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > own list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very similar to
> yours.
> > > > > Though
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > a few
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA-US:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gold Rush Int. Park
> -
> > > YK/AK
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Roberts, Peace
> Arch,
> > > 0
> > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > North Portal, SK -
> > > Portal,
> > > > > ND
> > > > > > > Golf
> > > > > > > > > > > Course
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Peace
> > > Gardens
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Peace
> Park
> > > -
> > > > > > > Waterton
> > > > > > > > > > > Glacier,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberta
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Falls
> - MN
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinecreek/Piney
> Airport
> > > -
> > > > > > > Pinecreek
> > > > > > > > > MN,
> > > > > > > > > > > Piney MB
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detroit/Windsor
> Tunnel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zavikon Bridge &
> 1000
> > > > > Islands
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NY/Que bar with pool
> > > table
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haskell, Beebe,
> Canusa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Campobello - NB/ME
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Doug Murray
> > > <doug@d...>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We are definitely
> due
> > > for a
> > > > > > > Great
> > > > > > > > > North
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Border Expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (though, Mexico
> would
> > > not
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Highlights:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Stewart BC-Hyder AK
> ( a
> > > > > > > toughie, as
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > is so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> north)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Point Roberts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sleeping at the
> > > Smugglers
> > > > > Inn
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > Zero
> > > > > > > > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Zero Ave!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Arch (BC-WA)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Garden
> (MB-ND)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Pineycreek
> (MB-MN)
> > > > > Airport
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Angle Inlet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> International
> Falls, MN
> > > -
> > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > Frances,
> > > > > > > > > > > ON
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Windsor, ON -
> Detroit,
> > > MI
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The intersection of
> > > Douglas
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > Murray in
> > > > > > > > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erie,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ON (though for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> personal reasons!)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Akwesasne Reserve
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Bar
> (Fort
> > > > > Covington,
> > > > > > > NY
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > Dundee,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > QC)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Golf
> Course
> > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And Campobello
> Island
> > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 2 weeks for this
> one!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Monday, March 8,
> > > 2004,
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > 06:27
> > > > > > > > > AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I've just added a
> > > picture
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > photo
> > > > > > > > > > > section
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> BP:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> taken in Ft.
> Covington
> > > -
> > > > > > > border
> > > > > > > > > > > Qu�bec/NY.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Wouldn't it be
> nice to
> > > > > have a
> > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Playing billiards
> -
> > > one
> > > > > leg in
> > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > country,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> drinking bourbon in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the US, while
> smoking
> > > a
> > > > > nice
> > > > > > > cigar
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada...!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> well, just say
> when -
> > > I'll
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > there!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all yours
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> MafiapeteDk
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Peter Hering
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> de bedste hilsener
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> mit freundlichen
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