Subject: Re: tripoints & sector boundaries Berlin, was: Bar divided betw. US + CA
Date: Mar 23, 2004 @ 17:11
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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I'm not sure, but it looks like the other sectoral tripoint was moved
as well following a boundary change involving a small parcel of land
along the Kieler Strasse. See http://www.arminweist.de/37100gat.htm .

Peter S.

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> ok wolfie
> is that you
> i knew you would come thru for this
>
> so we are really talking 1945frgbsu1991 on the one hand
> & 1945gbsuus1972 plus 1972gbsuus1991 on the other
> arent we
> or 3 sectoral tripoints in all for turtle
> if he would only stick his head up again
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "anorak222"
> <listen@w...> wrote:
> > Regarding tripoints: Yes there were two.
> >
> > 1. SU/FR/UK sectors, near the port "Nordhafen" in the canal
> > "Spandauer Schiffahrtskanal"
> >
> > 2. SU/UK/US sectors, at Potsdamer Platz
> >
> > Point #2 moved some 500 meters as a result of the small
> territorial
> > exchanges in 1972, when amongst others territory near
> Potsdamer Platz
> > was handed from East to West. The circumstances of these
> exchanges
> > have been discussed here before, so I won't reiterate.
> >
> >
> > Regarding exact sector boundaries:
> >
> > It'd get a bit lengthy to list all streets here, but it's easy for
> > anyone to find out themselves if you know how to. The
> boundaries were
> > identical to those of the administrative boroughs. These
> boroughs
> > were laid down in 1920 and were almost unchanged until
> 2001 (barring
> > minor changes here and there, some as part of East/West
> territorial
> > changes, some for mere administrative reasons over the
> years). So get
> > a pre-2001 city map (some are even on the map) (but not a
> more recent
> > one as boroughs were significantly changed in 2001) and look
> up the
> > borough names:
> >
> > French: Reinickendorf & Wedding
> > British: Tiergarten, Spandau, Wilmersdorf, Charlottenburg
> > American: Steglitz, Zehlendorf, Schöneberg, Tempelhof,
> Kreuzberg,
> > Neukölln
> > Soviet: Pankow, Weißensee, Prenzlauer Berg, Friedrichshain,
> Mitte,
> > Lichtenberg, Marzahn, Hellersdorf, Hohenschönhausen,
> Treptow,
> > Köpenick
> >
> > The only one visible in daily life was of course the one of the
> > Soviet sector with the other three. The boundaries between
> > French/British and British/American sectors were completely
> invisible.
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW note vocabulary: Withing Berlin you speak of sectors, not
> zones.
> > Occupation zones were the occupation territories of all
> Germany.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...>
> > wrote:
> > > It's actually a very interesting question, which I would like to
> > know the answer to myself.
> > >
> > > I am not strong withjin Berlin, but there are quite some Berlin
> > people in the group.
> > >
> > > A tripoint is where the borders meet, looks like there were
> two on
> > the center of Berlin : http://www.uoregon.edu/~map
> > place/EU/EU03-ColdWar/03-B.jpg
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Carl Schubbe
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Nielsen,
> > > I wanted only to know the exact streets which marked the
> > > distinction between the 4 occupation zones in post-war
> Berlin.