ah but mike
for the sheer pleasure of disagreeing with me
you are now changing not only what i said but what you said too
if you start from vancouver
you cant very well start from beaver creek too
can you
& thats only a few thousand extra miles you still havent counted
yet
but i see now even peter
who started it all
has backed out
& it sounds like dougs thru route wont even be leaving the
transcanada highway
so that may leave only you & me to actually go border freaking
hmm
so how about making it a tripointing expedition after all then
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kaufman
<mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> I was speaking concerning the stops I had in my list.
> And there are quite a few national car chains within
> range of the beginning and ending points. It's only a
> little over 110 miles from Campobello to Bangor. And
> it's only 30 miles from Blaine to Vancouver.
> (Vancouver and Bangor both have airports and car
> rental facilities.) This 140+ miles plus wrong turns
> plus driving to restaurants and hotels etc, sure
> doesn't come close to 2600 miles!!!
>
> --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > haha
> > well it is true i was high in the andes
> > thank goodness
> > but what you are now actually saying here mike at
> > minimum
> > namely
> > beginning from beaver creek of all places as if you
> > really could
> > & then skipping skagway now
> > to hyder to point roberts to international falls to
> > detroit to niagara
> > to estcourt to campobello
> > via all the other stops mentioned below by everyone
> > but me too
> > & within the terms of the actual 2 week tour being
> > contemplated
> > & even assuming direct travel & no wrong turns or
> > serendipity
> > which of course you cant because you wont actually
> > do that
> > & even assuming you could just end the trip at
> > campobello too
> > which you cant do either
> > will still add up on the odometer to far more than
> > the 7400 miles
> > you are seeing on your roadmap
> >
> > so in the event of reality
> > if any
> > rather than teleportation to the start & from the
> > end
> > etc etc
> > you are certainly pushing if not actually into 5
> > digits of miles
> > even with this foreshortened itinerary
> >
> > & if you dont believe me
> > well then by all means try it with or without the
> > cocaine
> > but i dont see how anyone could actually even try to
> > make such a
> > try under any circumstances
> > let alone with a whole carload of people
> >
> > & i say this having already driven about 99 percent
> > of it myself
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > Kaufman
> > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > No way. Blaine, WA to Campobello Is. is just over
> > > 4000 by Mapquest, taking into account all of the
> > > stops. Adding a segment of Skagway to Blaine adds
> > > 1500 miles. So that makes 5500 miles. A Yukon
> > > crossing near Beaver Creek could be done in 1700
> > miles
> > > (distance to Blaine), which would make 5700. Even
> > if
> > > you were thinking of a round trip segment from
> > Blaine
> > > to Yukon to Blaine, you would still only get 7400
> > > miles. Any of these figures are much closer to
> > 6000
> > > than 11,000. Were your calculations done while on
> > the
> > > aformentioned cocaine? heh heh heh ;)
> > >
> > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > yes awful high
> > > > especially if you move gold rush park from
> > skagway
> > > > to practically
> > > > anywhere else
> > > > since that alone could save you over 2000 miles
> > of
> > > > driving
> > > > & make your guess of closer to 6000 miles than
> > 10000
> > > > correct
> > > >
> > > > but if you moved gold rush park to the yukon
> > > > as it appears you may still be intending to do
> > > > then you would be closer to 11000 miles than
> > 6000
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
> > > > Kaufman"
> > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Hmm 10,000 seems an awful high estimate.
> > Closer
> > > > to 6,000 I
> > > > think.
> > > > > But regardless it seems Gold Rush is not the
> > park
> > > > I was
> > > > looking for
> > > > > as that borders on BC, not YK.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "acroorca2002"
> > > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > hey it wouldnt be impractical to just
> > remember
> > > > them
> > > > > > would it
> > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > as if an alaska to new brunswick motor tour
> > > > could actually be
> > > > > > done in the same 2 weeks anyway
> > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > even without any of the other mentioned side
> > > > trips & stops
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well maybe if you had enough cocaine
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but it looks like you are already pushing
> > 10000
> > > > miles there
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > Michael
> > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hmm some of those I think would have to be
> > > > precluded
> > > > > > > due to practicality. And the Binational
> > tps
> > > > would be
> > > > > > > more a subject of another trip I think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- acroorca2002 <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > nice lists all
> > > > > > > > & if we are really going to do the full
> > > > 2week
> > > > > > > > great north american border expedition
> > > > > > > > without mexico but with a bazuco
> > > > > > > > then lets at least remember
> > > > > > > > hans island cadk
> > > > > > > > isle verte cafr
> > > > > > > > & the diomedes ruus
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > the twin virgin idaho british columbia
> > > > tripoints
> > > > > > > > & others equally causal
> > > > > > > > sometimes practically coincident with
> > your
> > > > choices
> > > > > > > > tho i wont spoil it by telling you which
> > > > ones til we
> > > > > > > > get close
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > Doug
> > > > Murray
> > > > > > > > <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I can't believe I missed Haskell,
> > Beebe, &
> > > > > > > > Canusa... and lunch
> > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > Hurtibuse's! And dinner at Hoagie's
> > Pizza
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > Newport,
> > > > > > > > Vermont.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 10:31
> > PM,
> > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nice job. I have been constructing
> > > > (made it
> > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > > months ago and added here and there)
> > my
> > > > own list
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > very similar to yours. Though there
> > are
> > > > a few
> > > > > > > > > > differences.
> > > > > > > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > > > > > > CA-US:
> > > > > > > > > > Gold Rush Int. Park - YK/AK
> > > > > > > > > > Pt. Roberts, Peace Arch, 0 Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > North Portal, SK - Portal, ND Golf
> > > > Course
> > > > > > > > > > International Peace Gardens
> > > > > > > > > > International Peace Park - Waterton
> > > > Glacier,
> > > > > > > > Alberta
> > > > > > > > > > International Falls - MN
> > > > > > > > > > Pinecreek/Piney Airport - Pinecreek
> > MN,
> > > > Piney MB
> > > > > > > > > > Detroit/Windsor Tunnel
> > > > > > > > > > Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > Zavikon Bridge & 1000 Islands
> > > > > > > > > > NY/Que bar with pool table
> > > > > > > > > > Haskell, Beebe, Canusa
> > > > > > > > > > Campobello - NB/ME
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Doug Murray <doug@d...>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> We are definitely due for a Great
> > North
> > > > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > >> Border Expedition
> > > > > > > > > >> (though, Mexico would not be
> > included
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > time).
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Highlights:
> > > > > > > > > >> Stewart BC-Hyder AK ( a toughie, as
> > it
> > > > is so
> > > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > >> north)
> > > > > > > > > >> Point Roberts
> > > > > > > > > >> Sleeping at the Smugglers Inn on
> > Zero
> > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > >> Zero Ave!
> > > > > > > > > >> Peace Arch (BC-WA)
> > > > > > > > > >> Peace Garden (MB-ND)
> > > > > > > > > >> The Pineycreek (MB-MN) Airport
> > > > > > > > > >> Angle Inlet
> > > > > > > > > >> International Falls, MN - Fort
> > Frances,
> > > > ON
> > > > > > > > > >> Windsor, ON - Detroit, MI
> > > > > > > > > >> Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > >> The intersection of Douglas &
> > Murray in
> > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > Erie,
> > > > > > > > > >> ON (though for
> > > > > > > > > >> personal reasons!)
> > > > > > > > > >> Akwesasne Reserve
> > > > > > > > > >> The Border Bar (Fort Covington, NY
> > -
> > > > Dundee,
> > > > > > > > QC)
> > > > > > > > > >> The Border Golf Course (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > >> And Campobello Island (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> 2 weeks for this one!
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Doug
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 06:27
> > AM,
> > > > Peter
> > > > > > > > Hering
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> I've just added a picture to the
> > photo
> > > > section
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >> BP:
> > > > > > > > > >>> taken in Ft. Covington - border
> > > > Québec/NY.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Wouldn't it be nice to have a real
> > > > party
> > > > > > > > here??
> > > > > > > > > >>> Playing billiards - one leg in
> > each
> > > > country,
> > > > > > > > > >> drinking bourbon in
> > > > > > > > > >>> the US, while smoking a nice cigar
> > in
> > > > > > > > Canada...!
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> well, just say when - I'll be
> > there!
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> all yours
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> MafiapeteDk
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Peter Hering
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> de bedste hilsener
> > > > > > > > > >>> best regards
> > > > > > > > > >>> mit freundlichen Grüssen
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