Subject: tripoints & sector boundaries Berlin, was: Bar divided betw. US + CA<br/>
Date: Mar 22, 2004 @ 14:56<br/>
Author: anorak222 (&quot;anorak222&quot; &lt;listen@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1220932210">Regarding tripoints: Yes there were two.<br/>
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1. SU/FR/UK sectors, near the port &quot;Nordhafen&quot; in the canal<br/>
&quot;Spandauer Schiffahrtskanal&quot;<br/>
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2. SU/UK/US sectors, at Potsdamer Platz<br/>
<br/>
Point #2 moved some 500 meters as a result of the small territorial<br/>
exchanges in 1972, when amongst others territory near Potsdamer Platz<br/>
was handed from East to West. The circumstances of these exchanges<br/>
have been discussed here before, so I won&#39;t reiterate.<br/>
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Regarding exact sector boundaries:<br/>
<br/>
It&#39;d get a bit lengthy to list all streets here, but it&#39;s easy for<br/>
anyone to find out themselves if you know how to. The boundaries were<br/>
identical to those of the administrative boroughs. These boroughs<br/>
were laid down in 1920 and were almost unchanged until 2001 (barring<br/>
minor changes here and there, some as part of East/West territorial<br/>
changes, some for mere administrative reasons over the years). So get<br/>
a pre-2001 city map (some are even on the map) (but not a more recent<br/>
one as boroughs were significantly changed in 2001) and look up the<br/>
borough names:<br/>
<br/>
French: Reinickendorf & Wedding<br/>
British: Tiergarten, Spandau, Wilmersdorf, Charlottenburg<br/>
American: Steglitz, Zehlendorf, Schöneberg, Tempelhof, Kreuzberg,<br/>
Neukölln<br/>
Soviet: Pankow, Weißensee, Prenzlauer Berg, Friedrichshain, Mitte,<br/>
Lichtenberg, Marzahn, Hellersdorf, Hohenschönhausen, Treptow,<br/>
Köpenick<br/>
<br/>
The only one visible in daily life was of course the one of the<br/>
Soviet sector with the other three. The boundaries between<br/>
French/British and British/American sectors were completely invisible.<br/>
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<br/>
<br/>
BTW note vocabulary: Withing Berlin you speak of sectors, not zones.<br/>
Occupation zones were the occupation territories of all Germany.<br/>
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Regards<br/>
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<br/>
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--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Jesper Nielsen&quot; &lt;jesniel@i...&gt;<br/>
wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; It&#39;s actually a very interesting question, which I would like to<br/>
 </span></blockquote>know the answer to myself.<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; I am not strong withjin Berlin, but there are quite some Berlin<br/>
 </span></blockquote>people in the group.<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; A tripoint is where the borders meet, looks like there were two on<br/>
 </span></blockquote>the center of Berlin : <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.uoregon.edu/~map">http://www.uoregon.edu/~map</a><br/>
place/EU/EU03-ColdWar/03-B.jpg<br/>
<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt;   ----- Original Message ----- <br/>
&gt;   From: Carl Schubbe <br/>
&gt;   To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a> <br/>
&gt;   Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:23 PM<br/>
&gt;   Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt;   Dear Mr. Nielsen,<br/>
&gt;   I wanted only to know the exact streets which marked the<br/>
&gt; distinction between the 4 occupation zones in post-war Berlin. </span></blockquote></div>