Dear Mr. Kaufman:
Please help me out here. I cannot understand why so often BoundaryPoint
members appear to become *pissed off* toward other members. I can't recall
reading, in any of the other groups to which I belong, so many "you said,"
"he said," "I said," etc. And all for what *serious* reason.?
When I joined BP, I was hoping to gain as specific information as possible
regarding the four zones of post war occupation.
I received not a *single* response. Nada.
I am very much wanting out of this group. But try as I might, I have been
unsuccessful, despite my having followed the *unsubscribe* link as posted.
I would appreciate any help you might suggest toward achieving this purpose.
Thankyou
turtle5003@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw. US + CA
> Again, you misread and miscomprehend me. Where did I
> put a 2 week limit on anything? Please point this out
> as I never put this limit there. For some odd reason,
> you keep speaking of this as though I have. Second,
> reality is to my liking, as is the reality is that my
> trip does not necessitate 10,000 miles. Or 9500
> miles. Or 11,000 miles. etc etc etc. If you would
> like to plan a trip that does take 10,000 miles that
> is fine. No one is stopping you. In fact I'd enjoy
> seeing your plan of one. But that does not concern
> the itinerary I personally came up with. You may
> enjoy driving random roads from the start to finish,
> but if you wish to do so, you should account for the
> distances in your own trip, not force them into
> someone elses. Perhaps you could plan a GNASTP (Great
> North American Serendipitous Tripointing
> Peregrination) which would include thousands of miles
> of allowances for driving roads from start to finish.
> But that is not applicable here.
> Also, I do feel good, as I hope you do too. I use
> emphasis to point out where you are misunderstanding
> me, since it seems you quite often do. And I think
> that perhaps it is you who should take a bp break
> until you stop calling people "jerks" if they happen
> to bring up a topic which rankles you.
>
> --- acroorca2002 <orc@...> wrote:
> > first of all mike
> > nothing is more important than that you feel good
> >
> > so for starters
> > please leave your problems & your shouting somewhere
> > else
> >
> > & be sure to come back here as soon as you are
> > feeling better
> >
> >
> > puzzles we got
> >
> > problems not
> >
> >
> >
> > secondly
> > the reason i thought you didnt disallow peters &
> > dougs stops is
> > that you did explicitly disallow all my own
> > suggested stops below
> > but not any of the others
> > so far as i could tell
> >
> > so i figured
> > if you meant to disallow the others too
> > then you would have said so too
> >
> > & now that you have said so
> > i do understand
> >
> > you arent discounting them
> >
> > you are simply not counting them
> >
> > but mine you are actually discounting as well as not
> > counting
> >
> >
> > so this is finally
> > exclusively & entirely
> > your own private itinerary that you are measuring up
> >
> > i agree to that
> >
> >
> > & i also agree you should measure it exactly however
> > you like
> > & should certainly ignore me & reality too
> > & particularly all the others who think 2 weeks isnt
> > enough time
> > for alaska & new brunswick in any case whatever the
> > mileage
> > especially if thinking about us gets you
> > disconnected from who
> > you really are
> >
> >
> > thats right
> >
> > unless reality is entirely to your liking
> > i say ignore it in favor of your dreams
> >
> > & i will be with you 100 percent if you should do
> > that
> >
> >
> >
> > thirdly
> > i havent been directing & am not directing anything
> > at you
> > but have only been talking to you
> > & addressing what i thought you meant
> > just as i am also addressing now what i think you
> > mean now
> >
> >
> > & in my view
> > you are fine
> > & indeed divine
> > whatever you mean
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > Kaufman
> > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > Why did you think that? Your original claim was
> > > directed at me. You told me that I was pushing
> > 10,000
> > > miles. I'm not discounting anyone else's stops.
> > All
> > > I was doing was speaking of a list I had put
> > together
> > > myself. Of course final itineraries are a
> > > collaborative effort. But if you were speaking of
> > all
> > > of the stops you should have said so instead of
> > > directing it at me. Such lack of specificity
> > > (compounded by all your changes) causes problems.
> > And
> > > if you want my list - It IS below!
> > >
> > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > ok
> > > > i thought you were including all of peters &
> > dougs
> > > > stops too
> > > > which are also given below
> > > >
> > > > indeed all your suggestions below presupposed &
> > were
> > > > stacked
> > > > upon theirs
> > > >
> > > > & i have been responding only to the cumulative
> > list
> > > > here
> > > > rather than to some unknown selection from among
> > > > them all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > & when did you start leaving theirs out anyway
> > > >
> > > > i admit that surprises me more than any of your
> > > > other changes
> > > >
> > > > but still no problem
> > > >
> > > > lets just list all your stops in detail anyway
> > > > somewhere if not here
> > > > whatever they are
> > > > as pete too appears to suggest now
> > > > or there will be no actual outcome or output at
> > all
> > > >
> > > > just more garbage in & more garbage out
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but once we actually know what we are actually
> > > > talking about
> > > > if ever
> > > > then i am sure we could really do it some
> > justice
> > > > here at bp in
> > > > terms of precision try pointing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also
> > > > by flyby i only meant freeway or bypass miles
> > > > not airline miles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > > Kaufman
> > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > You are either not reading what I am writing
> > or
> > > > are
> > > > > not understanding it. MY MILEAGE IS NOT
> > FLY-BY
> > > > > MILEAGE BUT IS ROAD DISTANCE CALCULATED VIA
> > > > MAPQUEST.
> > > > > STOP TO STOP. You are also ignoring the fact
> > that
> > > > I
> > > > > said "I was speaking concerning the stops I
> > had
> > > > my
> > > > > list." (fortunately that is below so you can
> > read
> > > > > that too). Please reread what is in my list.
> > You
> > > > can
> > > > > rent cars in Vancouver and Bangor. The
> > mileage IS
> > > > > 7540. That is ROAD distance, not some crude
> > > > > estimation. If you seem to be in such utter
> > > > > disbelief, why dont you actually calculate it
> > out
> > > > on
> > > > > Mapquest instead of just assuming you are
> > right?
> > > > Your
> > > > > addition of 1200 miles is completely
> > unwarranted
> > > > as it
> > > > > is ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. And your 700
> > > > serendipitous
> > > > > miles may be appropriate for you, but not
> > > > necessarily
> > > > > for everyone else. And it is not necessary to
> > > > expand
> > > > > upon the plus for the simple reasone that
> > COMMON
> > > > SENSE
> > > > > tells you hotels plus food does not come to
> > 2460
> > > > > miles!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > well whatever you may or may not have
> > changed
> > > > > > fortunately it is all still here below to
> > check
> > > > > >
> > > > > > & if you really do want to know the truth
> > > > > > then why not spell out & measure up your
> > full
> > > > > > itinerary as it is
> > > > > > rather than just the approximate fly by
> > mileages
> > > > for
> > > > > > some of it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > & likewise why not actually estimate the
> > parts
> > > > you
> > > > > > cant spell out
> > > > > > rather than shrugging them off with a vague
> > plus
> > > > > > sign
> > > > > > as such variables can be guesstimed fairly
> > well
> > > > from
> > > > > > experience
> > > > > >
> > > > > > until you do
> > > > > > i can only continue to imagine we might be
> > > > talking
> > > > > > about the
> > > > > > same trip
> > > > > > & to continue to figure it very crudely as
> > > > follows
> > > > > >
> > > > > > vancouver to beaver creek to hyder to
> > vancouver
> > > > is
> > > > > > 3600 miles
> > > > > >
> > > > > > vancouver to international falls to detroit
> > to
> > > > > > niagara to estcourt to
> > > > > > campobello to bangor all direct is 4000
> > miles
> > > > > >
> > > > > > & tho you claim this 4000 takes account of
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > stops
> > > > > > i dont see how it can
> > > > > > because many of them involve substantial
> > side
> > > > trips
> > > > > >
> > > > > > indeed the dozen or so mentioned
> > destinations
> > > > that
> > > > > > are not on
> > > > > > this direct route add perhaps 1200 miles by
> > my
> > > > own
> > > > > > wild guess
> > > > > >
> > > > > > serendipity & unplanned necessity & mistakes
> > etc
> > > > add
> > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > another 700 miles
> > > > > > or more
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so my grand total thus far is perhaps 9500
> > miles
> > > > or
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > which may not be so very different from what
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > calling
> > > > > > 7540 miles plus
> > > > > > perhaps without fully realizing just how big
> > > > that
> > > > > > plus must be
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > btw
> > > > > > last time i tried
> > > > > > it wasnt possible to rent a driveaway
> > dropoff
> > > > either
> > > > > > to or from
> > > > > > alaska
> > > > > > so that may not actually be an option for
> > you
> > > > either
> > > > > >
> > > > > > perhaps you could do it in whitehorse
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > for the same economic reasons
> > > > > > i wouldnt count on it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > Michael
> > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > No. I am not changing what I am saying
> > here,
> > > > nor
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > you said. And I am not disagreeing with
> > you
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > sake of pleasure. I am disagreeing with
> > you
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > sake of truth. And I presented several
> > > > options
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > arriving at distances. One of these was
> > to
> > > > start
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > around Beaver Creek. Another, LONGER
> > route
> > > > was to
> > > > > > > rent a car in Vancouver, drive to Beaver
> > > > Creek,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > drive to Blaine. THIS route gives 7540
> > miles
> > > > > > > (finishing at Bangor). Any route starting
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > > vicinity of Beaver Creek would be less, as
> > > > there
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > in fact airports and car rental facilities
> > > > closer
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > Beaver Creek than Vancouver. Taking the
> > > > LONGER
> > > > > > route
> > > > > > > of Vancouver to Beaver Creek to Blaine to
> > > > Bangor,
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > have 7540 + stops, hotels, food. Which
> > still
> > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > 10,000 miles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- acroorca2002 <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > ah but mike
> > > > > > > > for the sheer pleasure of disagreeing
> > with
> > > > me
> > > > > > > > you are now changing not only what i
> > said
> > > > but
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > you said too
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > if you start from vancouver
> > > > > > > > you cant very well start from beaver
> > creek
> > > > too
> > > > > > > > can you
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > & thats only a few thousand extra miles
> > you
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > havent counted
> > > > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but i see now even peter
> > > > > > > > who started it all
> > > > > > > > has backed out
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > & it sounds like dougs thru route wont
> > even
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > leaving the
> > > > > > > > transcanada highway
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > so that may leave only you & me to
> > actually
> > > > go
> > > > > > > > border freaking
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hmm
> > > > > > > > so how about making it a tripointing
> > > > expedition
> > > > > > > > after all then
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I was speaking concerning the stops I
> > had
> > > > in
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > list.
> > > > > > > > > And there are quite a few national car
> > > > chains
> > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > > range of the beginning and ending
> > points.
> > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > only a
> > > > > > > > > little over 110 miles from Campobello
> > to
> > > > > > Bangor.
> > > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > > it's only 30 miles from Blaine to
> > > > Vancouver.
> > > > > > > > > (Vancouver and Bangor both have
> > airports
> > > > and
> > > > > > car
> > > > > > > > > rental facilities.) This 140+ miles
> > plus
> > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > > turns
> > > > > > > > > plus driving to restaurants and hotels
> > > > etc,
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > doesn't come close to 2600 miles!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > haha
> > > > > > > > > > well it is true i was high in the
> > andes
> > > > > > > > > > thank goodness
> > > > > > > > > > but what you are now actually saying
> > > > here
> > > > > > mike
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > minimum
> > > > > > > > > > namely
> > > > > > > > > > beginning from beaver creek of all
> > > > places as
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > really could
> > > > > > > > > > & then skipping skagway now
> > > > > > > > > > to hyder to point roberts to
> > > > international
> > > > > > falls
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > detroit to niagara
> > > > > > > > > > to estcourt to campobello
> > > > > > > > > > via all the other stops mentioned
> > below
> > > > by
> > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > > but me too
> > > > > > > > > > & within the terms of the actual 2
> > week
> > > > tour
> > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > contemplated
> > > > > > > > > > & even assuming direct travel & no
> > wrong
> > > > > > turns
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > serendipity
> > > > > > > > > > which of course you cant because you
> > > > wont
> > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > do that
> > > > > > > > > > & even assuming you could just end
> > the
> > > > trip
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > campobello too
> > > > > > > > > > which you cant do either
> > > > > > > > > > will still add up on the odometer to
> > far
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > the 7400 miles
> > > > > > > > > > you are seeing on your roadmap
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > so in the event of reality
> > > > > > > > > > if any
> > > > > > > > > > rather than teleportation to the
> > start &
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > etc etc
> > > > > > > > > > you are certainly pushing if not
> > > > actually
> > > > > > into 5
> > > > > > > > > > digits of miles
> > > > > > > > > > even with this foreshortened
> > itinerary
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > & if you dont believe me
> > > > > > > > > > well then by all means try it with
> > or
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > > but i dont see how anyone could
> > actually
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > try to
> > > > > > > > > > make such a
> > > > > > > > > > try under any circumstances
> > > > > > > > > > let alone with a whole carload of
> > people
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > & i say this having already driven
> > about
> > > > 99
> > > > > > > > percent
> > > > > > > > > > of it myself
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > No way. Blaine, WA to Campobello
> > Is.
> > > > is
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > > 4000 by Mapquest, taking into
> > account
> > > > all
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > stops. Adding a segment of
> > Skagway to
> > > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > > adds
> > > > > > > > > > > 1500 miles. So that makes 5500
> > miles.
> > > > A
> > > > > > > > Yukon
> > > > > > > > > > > crossing near Beaver Creek could
> > be
> > > > done
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 1700
> > > > > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > > > (distance to Blaine), which would
> > make
> > > > > > 5700.
> > > > > > > > Even
> > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > you were thinking of a round trip
> > > > segment
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > > > > > to Yukon to Blaine, you would
> > still
> > > > only
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > 7400
> > > > > > > > > > > miles. Any of these figures are
> > much
> > > > > > closer
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > > than 11,000. Were your
> > calculations
> > > > done
> > > > > > > > while on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > aformentioned cocaine? heh heh
> > heh ;)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > yes awful high
> > > > > > > > > > > > especially if you move gold rush
> > > > park
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > skagway
> > > > > > > > > > > > to practically
> > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere else
> > > > > > > > > > > > since that alone could save you
> > over
> > > > > > 2000
> > > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > > > > > & make your guess of closer to
> > 6000
> > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > > correct
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > but if you moved gold rush park
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > yukon
> > > > > > > > > > > > as it appears you may still be
> > > > intending
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > then you would be closer to
> > 11000
> > > > miles
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > "Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm 10,000 seems an awful high
> > > > > > estimate.
> > > > > > > > > > Closer
> > > > > > > > > > > > to 6,000 I
> > > > > > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But regardless it seems Gold
> > Rush
> > > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > park
> > > > > > > > > > > > I was
> > > > > > > > > > > > looking for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as that borders on BC, not YK.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > > > "acroorca2002"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey it wouldnt be
> > impractical to
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as if an alaska to new
> > brunswick
> > > > > > motor
> > > > > > > > tour
> > > > > > > > > > > > could actually be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > done in the same 2 weeks
> > anyway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > even without any of the
> > other
> > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > > trips & stops
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well maybe if you had enough
> > > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it looks like you are
> > > > already
> > > > > > > > pushing
> > > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > > miles there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm some of those I think
> > > > would
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > precluded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to practicality. And
> > the
> > > > > > > > Binational
> > > > > > > > > > tps
> > > > > > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more a subject of another
> > trip
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- acroorca2002
> > <orc@o...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice lists all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & if we are really going
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2week
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great north american
> > border
> > > > > > > > expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without mexico but with
> > a
> > > > bazuco
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then lets at least
> > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hans island cadk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isle verte cafr
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & the diomedes ruus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the twin virgin idaho
> > > > british
> > > > > > > > columbia
> > > > > > > > > > > > tripoints
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & others equally causal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes practically
> > > > coincident
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > choices
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tho i wont spoil it by
> > > > telling
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > ones til we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get close
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > > Murray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't believe I
> > missed
> > > > > > Haskell,
> > > > > > > > > > Beebe, &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canusa... and lunch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hurtibuse's! And
> > dinner
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > Hoagie's
> > > > > > > > > > Pizza
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newport,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vermont.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 9,
> > 2004,
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > 10:31
> > > > > > > > > > PM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice job. I have
> > been
> > > > > > > > constructing
> > > > > > > > > > > > (made it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months ago and added
> > > > here
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > there)
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > own list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very similar to
> > yours.
> > > > > > Though
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > a few
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA-US:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gold Rush Int. Park
> > -
> > > > YK/AK
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Roberts, Peace
> > Arch,
> > > > 0
> > > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > North Portal, SK -
> > > > Portal,
> > > > > > ND
> > > > > > > > Golf
> > > > > > > > > > > > Course
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Peace
> > > > Gardens
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Peace
> > Park
> > > > -
> > > > > > > > Waterton
> > > > > > > > > > > > Glacier,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberta
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Falls
> > - MN
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinecreek/Piney
> > Airport
> > > > -
> > > > > > > > Pinecreek
> > > > > > > > > > MN,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Piney MB
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detroit/Windsor
> > Tunnel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zavikon Bridge &
> > 1000
> > > > > > Islands
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NY/Que bar with pool
> > > > table
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haskell, Beebe,
> > Canusa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Campobello - NB/ME
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Doug Murray
> > > > <doug@d...>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We are definitely
> > due
> > > > for a
> > > > > > > > Great
> > > > > > > > > > North
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Border Expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (though, Mexico
> > would
> > > > not
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Highlights:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Stewart BC-Hyder AK
> > ( a
> > > > > > > > toughie, as
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > is so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> north)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Point Roberts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sleeping at the
> > > > Smugglers
> > > > > > Inn
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > Zero
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Zero Ave!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Arch (BC-WA)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Garden
> > (MB-ND)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Pineycreek
> > (MB-MN)
> > > > > > Airport
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Angle Inlet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> International
> > Falls, MN
> > > > -
> > > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > > Frances,
> > > > > > > > > > > > ON
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Windsor, ON -
> > Detroit,
> > > > MI
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The intersection of
> > > > Douglas
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > Murray in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erie,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ON (though for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> personal reasons!)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Akwesasne Reserve
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Bar
> > (Fort
> > > > > > Covington,
> > > > > > > > NY
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dundee,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > QC)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Golf
> > Course
> > > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And Campobello
> > Island
> > > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 2 weeks for this
> > one!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Monday, March 8,
> > > > 2004,
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > 06:27
> > > > > > > > > > AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I've just added a
> > > > picture
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > photo
> > > > > > > > > > > > section
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> BP:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> taken in Ft.
> > Covington
> > > > -
> > > > > > > > border
> > > > > > > > > > > > Québec/NY.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Wouldn't it be
> > nice to
> > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > > party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Playing billiards
> > -
> > > > one
> > > > > > leg in
> > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > country,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> drinking bourbon in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the US, while
> > smoking
> > > > a
> > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > cigar
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada...!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> well, just say
> > when -
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > be
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all yours
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Peter Hering
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