I think people use "you said," "he said," "I said," to
shed light on what is currently being said. Not so
much for pissing off but more for coming to understand
truth. But I can recall several times there have been
much more vigorous message sequences than this.
Although they may predate your entrance to this group
(I am not sure when that was).
But what is it you wish to know about these 4
occupation zones? I see Jesper just linked a good
map.
I have no idea about unsubscribing, at least no idea
why it did not work for you.
--- Carl Schubbe <
turtle5003@...> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Kaufman:
>
> Please help me out here. I cannot understand why so
> often BoundaryPoint
> members appear to become *pissed off* toward other
> members. I can't recall
> reading, in any of the other groups to which I
> belong, so many "you said,"
> "he said," "I said," etc. And all for what *serious*
> reason.?
>
> When I joined BP, I was hoping to gain as specific
> information as possible
> regarding the four zones of post war occupation.
>
> I received not a *single* response. Nada.
>
> I am very much wanting out of this group. But try as
> I might, I have been
> unsuccessful, despite my having followed the
> *unsubscribe* link as posted.
>
> I would appreciate any help you might suggest toward
> achieving this purpose.
>
> Thankyou
>
> turtle5003@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bar divided betw.
> US + CA
>
>
> > Again, you misread and miscomprehend me. Where
> did I
> > put a 2 week limit on anything? Please point this
> out
> > as I never put this limit there. For some odd
> reason,
> > you keep speaking of this as though I have.
> Second,
> > reality is to my liking, as is the reality is that
> my
> > trip does not necessitate 10,000 miles. Or 9500
> > miles. Or 11,000 miles. etc etc etc. If you
> would
> > like to plan a trip that does take 10,000 miles
> that
> > is fine. No one is stopping you. In fact I'd
> enjoy
> > seeing your plan of one. But that does not
> concern
> > the itinerary I personally came up with. You may
> > enjoy driving random roads from the start to
> finish,
> > but if you wish to do so, you should account for
> the
> > distances in your own trip, not force them into
> > someone elses. Perhaps you could plan a GNASTP
> (Great
> > North American Serendipitous Tripointing
> > Peregrination) which would include thousands of
> miles
> > of allowances for driving roads from start to
> finish.
> > But that is not applicable here.
> > Also, I do feel good, as I hope you do too. I use
> > emphasis to point out where you are
> misunderstanding
> > me, since it seems you quite often do. And I
> think
> > that perhaps it is you who should take a bp break
> > until you stop calling people "jerks" if they
> happen
> > to bring up a topic which rankles you.
> >
> > --- acroorca2002 <orc@...> wrote:
> > > first of all mike
> > > nothing is more important than that you feel
> good
> > >
> > > so for starters
> > > please leave your problems & your shouting
> somewhere
> > > else
> > >
> > > & be sure to come back here as soon as you are
> > > feeling better
> > >
> > >
> > > puzzles we got
> > >
> > > problems not
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > secondly
> > > the reason i thought you didnt disallow peters &
> > > dougs stops is
> > > that you did explicitly disallow all my own
> > > suggested stops below
> > > but not any of the others
> > > so far as i could tell
> > >
> > > so i figured
> > > if you meant to disallow the others too
> > > then you would have said so too
> > >
> > > & now that you have said so
> > > i do understand
> > >
> > > you arent discounting them
> > >
> > > you are simply not counting them
> > >
> > > but mine you are actually discounting as well as
> not
> > > counting
> > >
> > >
> > > so this is finally
> > > exclusively & entirely
> > > your own private itinerary that you are
> measuring up
> > >
> > > i agree to that
> > >
> > >
> > > & i also agree you should measure it exactly
> however
> > > you like
> > > & should certainly ignore me & reality too
> > > & particularly all the others who think 2 weeks
> isnt
> > > enough time
> > > for alaska & new brunswick in any case whatever
> the
> > > mileage
> > > especially if thinking about us gets you
> > > disconnected from who
> > > you really are
> > >
> > >
> > > thats right
> > >
> > > unless reality is entirely to your liking
> > > i say ignore it in favor of your dreams
> > >
> > > & i will be with you 100 percent if you should
> do
> > > that
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > thirdly
> > > i havent been directing & am not directing
> anything
> > > at you
> > > but have only been talking to you
> > > & addressing what i thought you meant
> > > just as i am also addressing now what i think
> you
> > > mean now
> > >
> > >
> > > & in my view
> > > you are fine
> > > & indeed divine
> > > whatever you mean
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > Kaufman
> > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > Why did you think that? Your original claim
> was
> > > > directed at me. You told me that I was
> pushing
> > > 10,000
> > > > miles. I'm not discounting anyone else's
> stops.
> > > All
> > > > I was doing was speaking of a list I had put
> > > together
> > > > myself. Of course final itineraries are a
> > > > collaborative effort. But if you were
> speaking of
> > > all
> > > > of the stops you should have said so instead
> of
> > > > directing it at me. Such lack of specificity
> > > > (compounded by all your changes) causes
> problems.
> > > And
> > > > if you want my list - It IS below!
> > > >
> > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > > ok
> > > > > i thought you were including all of peters &
> > > dougs
> > > > > stops too
> > > > > which are also given below
> > > > >
> > > > > indeed all your suggestions below
> presupposed &
> > > were
> > > > > stacked
> > > > > upon theirs
> > > > >
> > > > > & i have been responding only to the
> cumulative
> > > list
> > > > > here
> > > > > rather than to some unknown selection from
> among
> > > > > them all
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > & when did you start leaving theirs out
> anyway
> > > > >
> > > > > i admit that surprises me more than any of
> your
> > > > > other changes
> > > > >
> > > > > but still no problem
> > > > >
> > > > > lets just list all your stops in detail
> anyway
> > > > > somewhere if not here
> > > > > whatever they are
> > > > > as pete too appears to suggest now
> > > > > or there will be no actual outcome or output
> at
> > > all
> > > > >
> > > > > just more garbage in & more garbage out
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > but once we actually know what we are
> actually
> > > > > talking about
> > > > > if ever
> > > > > then i am sure we could really do it some
> > > justice
> > > > > here at bp in
> > > > > terms of precision try pointing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > also
> > > > > by flyby i only meant freeway or bypass
> miles
> > > > > not airline miles
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> Michael
> > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > You are either not reading what I am
> writing
> > > or
> > > > > are
> > > > > > not understanding it. MY MILEAGE IS NOT
> > > FLY-BY
> > > > > > MILEAGE BUT IS ROAD DISTANCE CALCULATED
> VIA
> > > > > MAPQUEST.
> > > > > > STOP TO STOP. You are also ignoring the
> fact
> > > that
> > > > > I
> > > > > > said "I was speaking concerning the stops
> I
> > > had
> > > > > my
> > > > > > list." (fortunately that is below so you
> can
> > > read
> > > > > > that too). Please reread what is in my
> list.
> > > You
> > > > > can
> > > > > > rent cars in Vancouver and Bangor. The
> > > mileage IS
> > > > > > 7540. That is ROAD distance, not some
> crude
> > > > > > estimation. If you seem to be in such
> utter
> > > > > > disbelief, why dont you actually calculate
> it
> > > out
> > > > > on
> > > > > > Mapquest instead of just assuming you are
> > > right?
> > > > > Your
> > > > > > addition of 1200 miles is completely
> > > unwarranted
> > > > > as it
> > > > > > is ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. And your 700
> > > > > serendipitous
> > > > > > miles may be appropriate for you, but not
> > > > > necessarily
> > > > > > for everyone else. And it is not
> necessary to
> > > > > expand
> > > > > > upon the plus for the simple reasone that
> > > COMMON
> > > > > SENSE
> > > > > > tells you hotels plus food does not come
> to
> > > 2460
> > > > > > miles!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > > well whatever you may or may not have
> > > changed
> > > > > > > fortunately it is all still here below
> to
> > > check
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & if you really do want to know the
> truth
> > > > > > > then why not spell out & measure up your
> > > full
> > > > > > > itinerary as it is
> > > > > > > rather than just the approximate fly by
> > > mileages
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > some of it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & likewise why not actually estimate the
> > > parts
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > cant spell out
> > > > > > > rather than shrugging them off with a
> vague
> > > plus
> > > > > > > sign
> > > > > > > as such variables can be guesstimed
> fairly
> > > well
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > until you do
> > > > > > > i can only continue to imagine we might
> be
> > > > > talking
> > > > > > > about the
> > > > > > > same trip
> > > > > > > & to continue to figure it very crudely
> as
> > > > > follows
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > vancouver to beaver creek to hyder to
> > > vancouver
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > 3600 miles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > vancouver to international falls to
> detroit
> > > to
> > > > > > > niagara to estcourt to
> > > > > > > campobello to bangor all direct is 4000
> > > miles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & tho you claim this 4000 takes account
> of
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > stops
> > > > > > > i dont see how it can
> > > > > > > because many of them involve substantial
> > > side
> > > > > trips
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > indeed the dozen or so mentioned
> > > destinations
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > are not on
> > > > > > > this direct route add perhaps 1200 miles
> by
> > > my
> > > > > own
> > > > > > > wild guess
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > serendipity & unplanned necessity &
> mistakes
> > > etc
> > > > > add
> > > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > > another 700 miles
> > > > > > > or more
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so my grand total thus far is perhaps
> 9500
> > > miles
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > which may not be so very different from
> what
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > 7540 miles plus
> > > > > > > perhaps without fully realizing just how
> big
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > plus must be
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > btw
> > > > > > > last time i tried
> > > > > > > it wasnt possible to rent a driveaway
> > > dropoff
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > to or from
> > > > > > > alaska
> > > > > > > so that may not actually be an option
> for
> > > you
> > > > > either
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > perhaps you could do it in whitehorse
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > for the same economic reasons
> > > > > > > i wouldnt count on it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Michael
> > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > No. I am not changing what I am
> saying
> > > here,
> > > > > nor
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > you said. And I am not disagreeing
> with
> > > you
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > sake of pleasure. I am disagreeing
> with
> > > you
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > sake of truth. And I presented
> several
> > > > > options
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > arriving at distances. One of these
> was
> > > to
> > > > > start
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > around Beaver Creek. Another, LONGER
> > > route
> > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > rent a car in Vancouver, drive to
> Beaver
> > > > > Creek,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > drive to Blaine. THIS route gives
> 7540
> > > miles
> > > > > > > > (finishing at Bangor). Any route
> starting
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > vicinity of Beaver Creek would be
> less, as
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > in fact airports and car rental
> facilities
> > > > > closer
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > Beaver Creek than Vancouver. Taking
> the
> > > > > LONGER
> > > > > > > route
> > > > > > > > of Vancouver to Beaver Creek to Blaine
> to
> > > > > Bangor,
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > have 7540 + stops, hotels, food.
> Which
> > > still
> > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > 10,000 miles.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- acroorca2002 <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > ah but mike
> > > > > > > > > for the sheer pleasure of
> disagreeing
> > > with
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > you are now changing not only what i
> > > said
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > you said too
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > if you start from vancouver
> > > > > > > > > you cant very well start from beaver
> > > creek
> > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > can you
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > & thats only a few thousand extra
> miles
> > > you
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > havent counted
> > > > > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but i see now even peter
> > > > > > > > > who started it all
> > > > > > > > > has backed out
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > & it sounds like dougs thru route
> wont
> > > even
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > leaving the
> > > > > > > > > transcanada highway
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so that may leave only you & me to
> > > actually
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > > > border freaking
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > hmm
> > > > > > > > > so how about making it a tripointing
> > > > > expedition
> > > > > > > > > after all then
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I was speaking concerning the
> stops I
> > > had
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > list.
> > > > > > > > > > And there are quite a few national
> car
> > > > > chains
> > > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > > > range of the beginning and ending
> > > points.
> > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > > only a
> > > > > > > > > > little over 110 miles from
> Campobello
> > > to
> > > > > > > Bangor.
> > > > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > > > it's only 30 miles from Blaine to
> > > > > Vancouver.
> > > > > > > > > > (Vancouver and Bangor both have
> > > airports
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > car
> > > > > > > > > > rental facilities.) This 140+
> miles
> > > plus
> > > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > > > turns
> > > > > > > > > > plus driving to restaurants and
> hotels
> > > > > etc,
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > doesn't come close to 2600
> miles!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- m06079 <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > haha
> > > > > > > > > > > well it is true i was high in
> the
> > > andes
> > > > > > > > > > > thank goodness
> > > > > > > > > > > but what you are now actually
> saying
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > mike
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > minimum
> > > > > > > > > > > namely
> > > > > > > > > > > beginning from beaver creek of
> all
> > > > > places as
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > really could
> > > > > > > > > > > & then skipping skagway now
> > > > > > > > > > > to hyder to point roberts to
> > > > > international
> > > > > > > falls
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > detroit to niagara
> > > > > > > > > > > to estcourt to campobello
> > > > > > > > > > > via all the other stops
> mentioned
> > > below
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > > > but me too
> > > > > > > > > > > & within the terms of the actual
> 2
> > > week
> > > > > tour
> > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > contemplated
> > > > > > > > > > > & even assuming direct travel &
> no
> > > wrong
> > > > > > > turns
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > serendipity
> > > > > > > > > > > which of course you cant because
> you
> > > > > wont
> > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > > do that
> > > > > > > > > > > & even assuming you could just
> end
> > > the
> > > > > trip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > campobello too
> > > > > > > > > > > which you cant do either
> > > > > > > > > > > will still add up on the
> odometer to
> > > far
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > the 7400 miles
> > > > > > > > > > > you are seeing on your roadmap
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so in the event of reality
> > > > > > > > > > > if any
> > > > > > > > > > > rather than teleportation to the
> > > start &
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > etc etc
> > > > > > > > > > > you are certainly pushing if not
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > > into 5
> > > > > > > > > > > digits of miles
> > > > > > > > > > > even with this foreshortened
> > > itinerary
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > & if you dont believe me
> > > > > > > > > > > well then by all means try it
> with
> > > or
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > > > but i dont see how anyone could
> > > actually
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > try to
> > > > > > > > > > > make such a
> > > > > > > > > > > try under any circumstances
> > > > > > > > > > > let alone with a whole carload
> of
> > > people
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > & i say this having already
> driven
> > > about
> > > > > 99
> > > > > > > > > percent
> > > > > > > > > > > of it myself
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > No way. Blaine, WA to
> Campobello
> > > Is.
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > > > 4000 by Mapquest, taking into
> > > account
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > stops. Adding a segment of
> > > Skagway to
> > > > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > > > adds
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1500 miles. So that makes
> 5500
> > > miles.
> > > > > A
> > > > > > > > > Yukon
> > > > > > > > > > > > crossing near Beaver Creek
> could
> > > be
> > > > > done
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > 1700
> > > > > > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > > > > (distance to Blaine), which
> would
> > > make
> > > > > > > 5700.
> > > > > > > > > Even
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > > you were thinking of a round
> trip
> > > > > segment
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > Blaine
> > > > > > > > > > > > to Yukon to Blaine, you would
> > > still
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > 7400
> > > > > > > > > > > > miles. Any of these figures
> are
> > > much
> > > > > > > closer
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > > > than 11,000. Were your
> > > calculations
> > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > while on
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > aformentioned cocaine? heh
> heh
> > > heh ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- m06079
> <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yes awful high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > especially if you move gold
> rush
> > > > > park
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > skagway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to practically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere else
> > > > > > > > > > > > > since that alone could save
> you
> > > over
> > > > > > > 2000
> > > > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > > > > > > & make your guess of closer
> to
> > > 6000
> > > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > correct
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but if you moved gold rush
> park
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > yukon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as it appears you may still
> be
> > > > > intending
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > then you would be closer to
> > > 11000
> > > > > miles
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > 6000
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > "Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm 10,000 seems an awful
> high
> > > > > > > estimate.
> > > > > > > > > > > Closer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to 6,000 I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But regardless it seems
> Gold
> > > Rush
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > park
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > looking for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as that borders on BC, not
> YK.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "acroorca2002"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey it wouldnt be
> > > impractical to
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as if an alaska to new
> > > brunswick
> > > > > > > motor
> > > > > > > > > tour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > could actually be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done in the same 2 weeks
> > > anyway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahaha
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even without any of the
> > > other
> > > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > > > trips & stops
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well maybe if you had
> enough
> > > > > cocaine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it looks like you
> are
> > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > pushing
> > > > > > > > > > > 10000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > miles there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm some of those I
> think
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > precluded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to practicality.
> And
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > Binational
> > > > > > > > > > > tps
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more a subject of
> another
> > > trip
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- acroorca2002
> > > <orc@o...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice lists all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & if we are really
> going
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2week
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great north american
> > > border
> > > > > > > > > expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without mexico but
> with
> > > a
> > > > > bazuco
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then lets at least
> > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hans island cadk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isle verte cafr
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & the diomedes ruus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the twin virgin
> idaho
> > > > > british
> > > > > > > > > columbia
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tripoints
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & others equally
> causal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes
> practically
> > > > > coincident
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > choices
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tho i wont spoil it
> by
> > > > > telling
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ones til we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get close
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Murray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't believe I
> > > missed
> > > > > > > Haskell,
> > > > > > > > > > > Beebe, &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canusa... and lunch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hurtibuse's! And
> > > dinner
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > Hoagie's
> > > > > > > > > > > Pizza
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newport,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vermont.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March
> 9,
> > > 2004,
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > 10:31
> > > > > > > > > > > PM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice job. I
> have
> > > been
> > > > > > > > > constructing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (made it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months ago and
> added
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > there)
> > > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > own list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very similar to
> > > yours.
> > > > > > > Though
> > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a few
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA-US:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gold Rush Int.
> Park
> > > -
> > > > > YK/AK
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Roberts,
> Peace
> > > Arch,
> > > > > 0
> > > > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > North Portal, SK
> -
> > > > > Portal,
> > > > > > > ND
> > > > > > > > > Golf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Course
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International
> Peace
> > > > > Gardens
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International
> Peace
> > > Park
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Waterton
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Glacier,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberta
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International
> Falls
> > > - MN
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinecreek/Piney
> > > Airport
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Pinecreek
> > > > > > > > > > > MN,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Piney MB
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detroit/Windsor
> > > Tunnel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zavikon Bridge &
> > > 1000
> > > > > > > Islands
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NY/Que bar with
> pool
> > > > > table
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haskell, Beebe,
> > > Canusa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Campobello -
> NB/ME
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Doug Murray
> > > > > <doug@d...>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We are
> definitely
> > > due
> > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > Great
> > > > > > > > > > > North
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Border
> Expedition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (though, Mexico
> > > would
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Highlights:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Stewart
> BC-Hyder AK
> > > ( a
> > > > > > > > > toughie, as
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> north)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Point Roberts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sleeping at the
> > > > > Smugglers
> > > > > > > Inn
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > Zero
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Zero Ave!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Arch
> (BC-WA)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peace Garden
> > > (MB-ND)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Pineycreek
> > > (MB-MN)
> > > > > > > Airport
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Angle Inlet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> International
> > > Falls, MN
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > > > Frances,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ON
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Windsor, ON -
> > > Detroit,
> > > > > MI
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Niagara Falls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The
> intersection of
> > > > > Douglas
> > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > Murray in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erie,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ON (though for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> personal
> reasons!)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Akwesasne
> Reserve
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Bar
> > > (Fort
> > > > > > > Covington,
> > > > > > > > > NY
> > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dundee,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > QC)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Border Golf
> > > Course
> > > > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And Campobello
> > > Island
> > > > > > > (ME-NB)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 2 weeks for
> this
> > > one!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Doug
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Monday,
> March 8,
> > > > > 2004,
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > 06:27
> > > > > > > > > > > AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I've just
> added a
> > > > > picture
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > photo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > section
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> BP:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> taken in Ft.
> > > Covington
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > border
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Qu�bec/NY.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Wouldn't it be
> > > nice to
> > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > > > party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Playing
> billiards
> > > -
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > leg in
> > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > country,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> drinking
> bourbon in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the US, while
> > > smoking
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > > cigar
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada...!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> well, just say
> > > when -
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > there!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all yours
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Peter Hering
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> de bedste
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