1. Boundaries through urban areas
    I have been busy lately, so I didn t get to respond to somebody who showed a map of a boundary going through an urban area. I have some comments and anecdotes
    Oct 30, 2003 @ 17:49 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  2. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... It might be the little enclave NE of Im Ulenbusch street. See http://stadtplan.hamburg.de/index.jsp and search for that street. Peter S.
    Oct 30, 2003 @ 18:24 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  3. Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    Another one according to this map ( http://stadtplan.hamburg.de/index.jsp ): try street name Hoopredder. Peter S.
    Oct 30, 2003 @ 18:48 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    Apart from 1st level county borders that Copenhagen surburbs expand, beyound there is only one 1st level divided town: Foldingbro (Sønderjylland (old North
    Oct 30, 2003 @ 19:44 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  5. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Another place people might look is in Kansas City, MO-KS. The border is a straight line right through town. There s a State Line Rd., but it doesn t stretch
    Oct 30, 2003 @ 20:21 - adamnvillani ("adamnvillani" <avillani@...>)
  6. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    ... Call me stupid, I can t see anything in this map that looks like a boundary. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 05:35 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  7. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    Neither can I, but I will keep on looking closer, Anton. -- Jim Smith (JWAS), Mississauga, Ontario, Canada ... From: Anton Sherwood [mailto:bronto@pobox.com]
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 05:45 - Jim Smith ("Jim Smith" <jwas@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    The border is the very broad grey line that goes on the north side of Hoopredder. Just east of Hoopwischen 46 is a enclave. Jesper ... From: Anton Sherwood
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 05:46 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    Ah! The reference was incomplete. Okay. http://stadtplan.hamburg.de/search.jsp;jsessionid=ep1fxyzhg1 -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 06:27 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  10. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    ... In 1977-9 I worked in the library at uiuc.edu, which - according to some but not all maps! - straddles Urbana and Champaign. I liked to think that I
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 06:33 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    ... The CERN high-energy physics laboratory (Meyrin site) straddles the CH-FR border near Geneva. About half the site is in France, although all the entrances
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 09:22 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <knm@...>)
  12. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... exist, I ... visited :-( & fortunately any imagined multiple misfortune or regret or unsmiley has nothing to do with multipointing or any other form of
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 16:26 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  13. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    In southern New Jersey s Gloucester County, there is a small borough called National Park, on the banks of the Delaware River, surrounded by the incorporated
    Oct 31, 2003 @ 17:20 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    Sweet. I went to college at Tufts University in Medford/Somerville, MA. The library there is also divided between the two towns. Also, Haskell Free Library
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 05:34 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    I visited the divided structure on the Copenhagen City-Copenhagen County lines yesterday comming from work, but there is nothing there. It s definately not an
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 09:54 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  16. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    search & enjoy real success is when your compass gets stuck on happy no matter what you may or may not find & now we have a whole new rarity or nullity to look
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 15:28 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    The railway station building Bayerisch Eisenstein is divided Bayerisch-Eisenstein(Germany/Bavaria)-Zelezna Ruda/Markt Eisenstein (CZ). It was built approximate
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 17:16 - udomet@gmx.de (udomet@...)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    There are some tri-point possibilities here in Vancouver and surrounding areas: Check out the centre map:
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 18:01 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    Nice map Doug. Pity about all these wet tp! Go for the dry ones? Are there further divisions? Jesper ... From: Doug Murray To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 18:58 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  20. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Yes, nice to discover new things (and to read posting from you where you wrote understandable language). A colleagues informed me of a postal district enclave
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 19:02 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  21. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries through urban areas
    There are some interesting points in the river where certain islands are Indian land. I m still trying to find a good paper map that shows some detail. I
    Nov 01, 2003 @ 19:05 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  22. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    haha & now i am the one with no idea what you guys are talking about hahaha but it strikes me as a great spoof of real try pointing i will tell you seriously
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 01:38 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  23. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... Tunnels should qualify. We have two railway tunnels and one highway tunnel under the CAUS boundary, and one railway tunnel under the MXUS boundary. Of
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 02:47 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  24. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Don t know what it is, but it may not be for long... Austria-Hungary-Slovakia may build an amusement park on the tp, with a building encompassing the tp. see:
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 06:33 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  25. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Oh yes...looking closely at http://www.architectstudent.net/main.asp?page=portfolios&action=detail&id=3636 one can see many tiny TP pictures in black and white
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 06:45 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  26. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Mike That s for sure Peter! And Harry s KETZ (http://leden.tref.nl/~veenhh/borderland/wereld/ke-tz.htm) Cannot spot any of mine.... Jesper ... From: Michael
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 10:39 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  27. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    mine neither anyway this covered tripoint is in the future maybe still stuck on happy tho ... (http://leden.tref.nl/~veenhh/borderland/wereld/ke-tz.htm) ...
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 13:15 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  28. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... highway tunnel ... MXUS boundary. Of ... and Andes. ... there. ... for. ... yes jesper & lowell & the next step in this staged dilution & aeration &
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 13:43 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  29. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    you are right. end of discussion jesper ... From: acroorca2002 To: Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:43 PM
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 14:34 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  30. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    thanx & i dont mean to squelch anything since trying to stop anything only promotes it anyway but i did mean as always to review everything presented here as
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 16:31 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  31. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Very interesting concept. Perhaps Janka is also a borderfreak? I agree with Mike about the uniqueness of this TP. I have been there twice, and it is without
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 17:43 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  32. Re: Boundaries through urban areas -> HH enclaves
    Search for Suchbegriff eingeben and type Hoopredder . ... Hoopredder. ... Service.
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 19:13 - P. Joost Lemmens ("P. Joost Lemmens" <joostik@...>)
  33. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... borderfreak? ... know where ... well you can because this event reportedly occurred much nearer to athusk than say to athusi look between the hungarian
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 21:46 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  34. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    thats not what he meant silly he meant the first snip of the barbed wire made by gyula horn on 27 june 89 in a wood near klingenbach & thats a good 10km
    Nov 02, 2003 @ 22:46 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  35. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Hi, I visited the site of the pinic few years ago and I took pictures of the border. There is a small monument there. Nicholas ...
    Nov 03, 2003 @ 16:24 - Nicholas Cretu (Nicholas Cretu <nickjc001us@...>)
  36. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    In addition to Kansas City and Wash DC, Bristol TN/VA is another urbanized state border, I believe I ve read some interesting posts on here about the bizarre
    Nov 03, 2003 @ 16:58 - dcupopelilly ("dcupopelilly" <ronkessler@...>)
  37. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    hi & thanx nicholas & ron too & lets see this monumental border monument if you can & would beam it up to us & i am glad this thread title continues unchanged
    Nov 03, 2003 @ 17:10 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  38. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    nice http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=4574535&e=255355&s=100&size=m&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25 ...
    Nov 04, 2003 @ 18:55 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  39. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Nice one Just wait untill Iowa wan t to be independant. Jesper ... From: Michael Kaufman To: Sent:
    Nov 04, 2003 @ 20:15 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  40. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    the missouri & mississippi rivers have many of these & of course all rivers tend to do this sort of thing to some extent but it is just that these particular
    Nov 04, 2003 @ 23:57 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  41. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    The MI-IN border runs between South Bend IN and Niles MI. In some ways, they re one urban center. Many people live in one city and shop or work in the other.
    Nov 05, 2003 @ 05:00 - Tom (Tom <hilversum96@...>)
  42. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    you get a free pass tom for the chicks
    Nov 05, 2003 @ 14:30 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  43. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    correction there are still dozens of bits of texas & dozens of bits of arkansas on the wrong side of the red river
    Nov 05, 2003 @ 16:09 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  44. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... arkansas ... me ... & ... discussed ... ... extent ... in ... new ...
    Nov 05, 2003 @ 17:17 - voit1 ("voit1" <voit1@...>)
  45. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... wooded ... rivers ... http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/Archive/Oct2003/Calif ... I ... oops & thanx that is a fantastic detail & topozone is
    Nov 05, 2003 @ 18:27 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  46. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... There are two courthouses athwart the state boundary in Texarkana. One is the famous US Post Office and Federal Courthouse. The state boundary presents
    Nov 06, 2003 @ 06:23 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  47. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    good thanx much that is a confirmed singularity & my question of course is about the actual shape & dimensions of the condo territory & the positions of the 2
    Nov 06, 2003 @ 15:22 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  48. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... I knew that was coming! :-) I ll research it and get back to you. Lowell G. McManus Leesville, Louisiana, USA
    Nov 06, 2003 @ 15:35 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  49. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Attached (and also at www.mexlist.com/bp/bcjc.jpg ) is an aerial photo map that I have made to show the Bi-state Criminal Justice Center condominium. The
    Nov 07, 2003 @ 04:06 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@msn.com>)
  50. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    many thanxxx & comments intertwingled ... photo map that ... condominium. ... upon the ... facilities of the ... which the ... good i agree & this means the
    Nov 07, 2003 @ 15:44 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  51. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    This situation comes down to what exactly does and does not constitute a condominium. In the beginning of this discussion, I said that it is something of a
    Nov 07, 2003 @ 20:56 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  52. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    well this keeps sliding downhill in a way because there actually is also a port of njny authority condo & many similarly functional condos by other names
    Nov 07, 2003 @ 21:53 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  53. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Yes, I have read in the past about the jurisdictions in the NJNY port area, and I seem to remember that it says that NY has jurisdiction over ships in certain
    Nov 08, 2003 @ 00:33 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  54. Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    ... port area, and ... in certain ... jurisdiction, whereby ... involving boundary ... laws of ... this still ... Texarkana). Are ... i think the menh
    Nov 08, 2003 @ 16:58 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  55. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    IIRC, NY has complete jurisdiction up to the low water mark in the entire NYNJ harbor area, even on the NJ shoreline; with the provision that NJ may construct
    Nov 10, 2003 @ 18:45 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  56. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries through urban areas
    Kevin, All I know about the NJ and NY jurisdictions in and around the New York Harbor comes from Franklin K. Van Zandt s BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 03:52 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  57. Boundaries of the United States and the Several States
    Does anyone have the ISBN (or, if it s a governement publication the SuDoc number) for this book, as well as any information on where to buy a copy? Thanks,
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 05:54 - Asher Samuels (Asher Samuels <asher972@...>)
  58. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Boundaries of the United States and the Several States
    Asher, I do wish I could help, but my copy is photocopied from the text only without the title page, etc. It is a US Government document, from the Department
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 13:35 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  59. Re: Boundaries of the United States and the Several States
    No ISBN number shown in the book, but here are some identifiers: US Government Printing Office stock number: 024-001-02758-5 Catalog Number I 19.16.909 Library
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 14:05 - bjbutlerus ("bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@...>)
  60. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries of the United States and the Several States
    Using the clues below, I have been able to determine that the ISSN is 1044-9612. This is the most recent 1976 edition. Complete info on the publication is
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 15:05 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  61. Congradulations to Rolf
    I got my copy of Comet, Lonely Planet s newsletter (LP is a travel guide publisher) and saw a Top 5 travel list created by our own Rolf Palmberg. Here is his
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 14:50 - Andrew T. Patton (Andrew T. Patton <andrew@...>)
  62. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Congradulations to Rolf
    Hopefully he will get the guide for Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria! Congratulations!! ... ... Doug Murray Productions - Border Films POV Sports -
    Nov 11, 2003 @ 16:11 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  63. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Congradulations to Rolf
    Thanks Andrew & Doug. I can choose the prize book myself, and to be honest, I haven t made up my mind yet. Rolf PS! As a devoted Lonely Planet fan, I comment
    Nov 12, 2003 @ 05:51 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)