1. dutch provinces
    ... I thought it was already Flevoland when I visited in 1975. But I could be combining two memories of different origin. -- Anton Sherwood
    Nov 05, 2001 @ 18:10 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  2. Re: dutch provinces
    I have just looked it up. It was on January 1, 1986, that Flevoland came into existence. Flevoland consists of (a.o.) two polders with that name: East and
    Nov 05, 2001 @ 18:15 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  3. Re: dutch provinces -> oddities in terr. hierarchy
    ... Before that, the territory of the two Flevolands was known as the Public Body of the Southern IJsselmeer polders (the Noordoostpolder and the former
    Nov 05, 2001 @ 20:18 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: dutch provinces -> oddities in terr. hierarchy
    The NW corner of NSW is not part of any shire or city. It is termed unincorporated area on maps. Likewise French island, a rural holiday retreat in Western
    Nov 06, 2001 @ 01:51 - Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: dutch provinces
    ... Which islands, I see, are both now within NOP. -- Anton Sherwood
    Nov 06, 2001 @ 08:29 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  6. Re: dutch provinces
    ... Schokland is part of the municipality of Noordoostpolder, but Urk has remained a municipality of it s own. This is because Urk always was a densely
    Nov 06, 2001 @ 15:34 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  7. US counties, unincorprated territories
    Very interesting. In the United States, states handle unincorporated areas differently. For 49 of the 50, land is divided into counties (shires). In places
    Nov 06, 2001 @ 17:38 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... arif has pointed out in his weekly geographical curiosities for which see our top bp bookmarks link that the montana portion of yellowstone park hasnt been
    Nov 06, 2001 @ 18:01 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... When I moved to Virginia, I found this to be very weird. I now live next to a section of Fairfax County (that has an enclaved part called Fairfax City but
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 01:19 - Andrew T. Patton ("Andrew T. Patton" <andrew@...>)
  10. Re: Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... It is also interesting that the Montana portion of Yellowstone NP is part of the US District Court of Wyoming not US District Court of Montana (Also this
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 01:19 - Andrew T. Patton ("Andrew T. Patton" <andrew@...>)
  11. Re: Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... please let us know anything more that you can about this case it sounds like tripoints may be involved thanx m
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 01:45 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    andrew this is actually quite an extraordinary nicety until you mentioned the peculiar power of independent cities to slurp up adjacent lands i had imagined
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 01:56 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  13. Virginia vs. Maryland
    ... The basis of the case is that Maryland controls the Potomac River. That is the border between Virginia and Maryland is at the waters edge on the Virginia
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 03:50 - Andrew T. Patton ("Andrew T. Patton" <andrew@...>)
  14. Re: Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... I do not know much more, it is something I have wanted to research but have had the time. One this that I do know is that Virginia is a commonwealth * not
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 03:50 - Andrew T. Patton ("Andrew T. Patton" <andrew@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    Andrew, What a small world! Yeah, I graduated Tech in 2000 with a BS in Management Science and currently live in Pittsburgh. Back on topic though :), I
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 05:06 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... The city of Los Angeles includes numerous post offices with other names: Pacific Palisades, San Pedro, Sunland, Tujunga, Canoga Park, Chatsworth, Encino,
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 05:17 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... er, how? i remember a friend s comment that the Commonwealth of Virginia (or possibly one of the others) has State Police. -- Anton Sherwood
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 04:41 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... bus&ss p91 says the entire boundary of dc was surveyed in 1791 & was marked with sandstone mileposts in 1792 these mileposts except for those at the 4
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 05:57 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... So the 40 independent cities are the only incorporated municipalities in Virginia? -- Anton Sherwood
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 06:16 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  20. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Texas is similar to Indiana in that there are large areas outside the jurisdiction of any city. The entirety of Texas is divided into counties. Texas counties
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 16:30 - jisham@mailandnews.com (jisham@...)
  21. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... I think there is a difference between town and cities in Virginia. Towns are still part of the county, they just run some services such as police and
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 17:14 - andrew@AndrewPatton.com (andrew@...)
  22. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... Yes Virginia has a State Police (called surpisingly the Virginia State Police) and all the other elements of a state. The difference between a state and a
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 17:36 - andrew@AndrewPatton.com (andrew@...)
  23. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... Some towns do exist in Virginia but they are parts of counties that decided to run some of the government services by themselves. Mainly police and
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 17:38 - andrew@AndrewPatton.com (andrew@...)
  24. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    The difference is in name only. Governmentally, there is no difference between a state and a commonwealth. In addition to Virginia, Pennsylvania has a state
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 17:52 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  25. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    No - I meant that (incorporated) for both towns and cities. I think the only difference lies in type of government. Here in Pennsylvania, that s the
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 17:58 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  26. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    As does the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and very possibly, Kentucky. Bill ... From: PitHokie To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07,
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 18:02 - Bill Hanrahan ("Bill Hanrahan" <hanrahan@...>)
  27. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... I know that in Germany, two Laender have the official designation of Freistaat : Bavaria and Saxony. I don t know whether this has any implications.
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 18:24 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  28. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    good queries anton it is true that the republic of texas had to be chopped down to size in order to become the state of texas for as big as it is now formerly
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 18:45 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  29. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    I am awake, though my own computer isn t. I am trying to get somebody to fix it without paying nor without losing any data files (the virus attacked other
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 19:35 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  30. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... There is a third one: Thuringia (Thüringen). ... No. Freistaat is just another word for republic. -- Manfred Härtel
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 20:38 - Manfred Haertel (Manfred Haertel <Manfred.Haertel@...>)
  31. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... OK. No implications (just as Free and Hanseatic City in the case of Hamburg). But what is the origin of this Freistaat ?? Peter S.
    Nov 07, 2001 @ 23:00 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  32. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Territories are self-governing, but less sovereign than the states. This has implications for tax and federal funding mainly, and presumably legal implications
    Nov 08, 2001 @ 00:20 - Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
  33. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... including Kings and Richmond counties? ... Were the postal `cities in Queens (Long Island City, Flushing, Jamaica, Rockaway, Floral Park - according to
    Nov 08, 2001 @ 05:50 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  34. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Peter et. al, Texas is unique in that it s the only part of the continental United States that was ever been independently governed as its own country. It s
    Nov 08, 2001 @ 13:11 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  35. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Hi, also, Texas is the only state in the U.S. which has the power to split into not more than four smaller chunks of convenient size which would have to be
    Nov 08, 2001 @ 16:19 - anton_zeilinger@hotmail.com (anton_zeilinger@...)
  36. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    anton this former power has actually already been discharged in the erection of new mexico oklahoma kansas colorado & wyoming into states out of parts of the
    Nov 09, 2001 @ 04:14 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  37. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    lets also bear in mind that all these words states commonwealths territories etc etc have a different meaning from country to country & possibly even
    Nov 09, 2001 @ 04:20 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  38. Re: [BoundaryPoint] US counties, unincorprated territories
    well arif this is also very good in a way now that we get the curiosities direct by list post it is truly wonderful to find that there are indeed not only
    Nov 09, 2001 @ 04:27 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  39. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Few things. First of all, Texas can split into five states or probably the correct way to put is four states can secede out of it. The Bahraini piece in Qatar
    Nov 10, 2001 @ 16:48 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  40. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    bus&ss p122 says in digest congress consented to the erection of texas to statehood provided it meaning congress retained the right to erect up to 4 new
    Nov 10, 2001 @ 21:52 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  41. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Anton, Very interesting. I wonder how, if this came to pass one day, it would contradict U.S. law that says no new states may be created from territory of
    Nov 11, 2001 @ 22:04 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  42. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    i still trust the bus&ss bible better than these web pages which make claims but dont substantiate also in reality any state can be broken into parts that are
    Nov 12, 2001 @ 00:49 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
  43. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    m and others, I think the law was passed after West Virginia was admitted to the Union in 1863. All other states admitted after her have not been carved from
    Nov 13, 2001 @ 05:11 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  44. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... Which law? The US Constitution says (Article IV Section 3 paragraph 1): New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall
    Nov 13, 2001 @ 08:52 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  45. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Anton, The law I was speaking of was indeed from the Constitution - I should have had my facts a little more in tact before making my post! Virginia was not
    Nov 13, 2001 @ 14:36 - PitHokie (PitHokie <pithokie@...>)
  46. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... But the United States claimed precisely that Virginia *was* a member of the Union. To treat it otherwise would undermine the pretext for the war. ... Yes,
    Nov 14, 2001 @ 06:40 - Anton Sherwood (Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>)
  47. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    not to beat a very slow horse but i am seriously wondering what i might have meant by etc herebelow besides the mentioned republics of california & dixie
    Nov 22, 2001 @ 05:11 - orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)
  48. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    Do you mean that all those republics were independent at one point? A bit like the different Boer republics in South Africa in the 19th century (not only
    Nov 22, 2001 @ 17:53 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  49. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... not sure i mean the indian stream republic did look awfully real for some time but not necessarily any of the others i guess its a question of whether &
    Nov 23, 2001 @ 00:07 - orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)
  50. Re: US counties, unincorprated territories
    ... point? ... time ... movement or whatever it is that manifests like that deserves to be called a state or country etc ... ... when others let them (i.e. the
    Nov 23, 2001 @ 00:09 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)