1. Strange section chit border
    This section looks strange - like african borders - like made by ruler...
    Mar 04, 2004 @ 21:07 - Artur Kroc (Artur Kroc <kroc@interia.pl>)
  2. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Strange section chit border
    Thats right, as i know its result of special interests of switzerland. the shown situation is from val di lei.
    Mar 04, 2004 @ 23:16 - chris schulz ("chris schulz" <23568@...>)
  3. Re: Strange section chit border
    Note also that it is a municipal exclave of Innerferrera. Cf. http://www.innerferrera.ch/innerferrera/geschichte.html (mentions a territory exchange with Italy
    Mar 05, 2004 @ 08:34 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  4. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... (mentions ... ... (german) ... this wall ... whatever) ... by ... straight looking sections of borders are actually fairly common everywhere
    Mar 05, 2004 @ 15:00 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Which leads to the question of which manmade segments are NOT straight. The only thing that comes to my mind is the DE-PA Arc (or Arcs). Are there any world
    Mar 05, 2004 @ 22:14 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  6. Re: Strange section chit border
    some international borders in africa include arcs of circles usually around oases i was also thinking there might be some borders that have been delineated by
    Mar 05, 2004 @ 23:08 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  7. Re: Strange section chit border
    All international borders are manmade , aren t they? Straight ones are the exceptions. Most borders have components that are short segments, but its rare
    Mar 05, 2004 @ 23:43 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Well, this is a technicality, but... Any parallel of latitude, or any other line of constant bearing that is not a meridian of longitude, is not straight.
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 00:11 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  9. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... why do you ask did anybody say or even imply they werent ... exceptions to what & what do you mean by straight ... whatsoever ... every border stone is
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 02:55 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  10. Re: Strange section chit border
    well it is not only a technicality but a change of topic artur began by remarking about borders which on a map look like they were made by a ruler after the
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 02:57 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  11. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... wrote, in reaction to Len s question All international borders are manmade , aren t they? , ... Assuming that the inquiry wasn t academic, here s why:
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 05:37 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Yes, but I think the Equator would be the exception to this rule. Of course this is assuming the earth is a perfect sphere. But we know that it is just an
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 07:53 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  13. Re: Strange section chit border
    & if you can distinguish these apples from these oranges you can have either or both of them but please understand that they are 2 entirely different fruits
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 13:23 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  14. Re: Strange section chit border
    & if you hadnt clipped what he wrote & the prior messages he was responding to you could see even now by just scrolling down that he didnt mean what you think
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 13:33 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    You are correct. The Equator is the only parallel of latitude that is also a great circle. I thought of that after writing my message, but didn t want to
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 14:53 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Well, the arc around St Peter is not a straight line but a boundary of Vatican City and Italy. Arif __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!
    Mar 06, 2004 @ 23:57 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  17. Re: Strange section chit border
    good show & just the rare example i was looking for of a nonstraight linear manmade feature delineating a border & thus effectively marking it too
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 00:33 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  18. Re: Strange section chit border
    aw lets compound the technicality anyway just to make sure we really are correct for are you absolutely sure the equator is a parallel of latitude my
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 03:01 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Okay, I can see all your semantic points, but... Since you say that the Equator has no latitude, does the Greenwich Line have no longitude? What about that
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 03:21 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  20. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... well good as semantic does after all mean pertaining to the actual meaning of things & semantics are often dismissed as if they ran counter to good sense
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 05:27 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  21. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Please understand that my calling your points semantic was not meant to disparage them in the least (as some commonly use that word). Semantics and
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 07:22 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  22. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... not meant to ... word). Semantics and ... much can be learned. ... latitude and ... to the artificial ... axis through them are ... for the sake of ...
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 14:28 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  23. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    Using either of the tropics or polar circles as a place from which to measure latitude would cause significant difficulties as these locations vary (over a
    Mar 07, 2004 @ 16:32 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  24. Re: Strange section chit border
    oops the new pix in todays message 13921 show the itva border itself following the straight outer edges of the column bases rather than the general arc of the
    Apr 08, 2004 @ 21:26 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  25. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    If you re looking for a nonstraight linear manmade feature delineating a border, I think a good example would be the artificially relocated and channelized
    Apr 08, 2004 @ 23:09 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  26. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... delineating a ... relocated and ... not sure there is any calling for a full blown quest here yet for one thing i dont know if the graphics we just saw
    Apr 09, 2004 @ 18:04 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  27. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    I, too, would love to know exactly how the Lateran Treaty of 1929 delimited the boundary along and about the colonnade. The MXUS boundary in the Rio Grande s
    Apr 10, 2004 @ 04:10 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  28. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... 1929 delimited the ... natural middle of the ... segments, the ... lines and ... points . The ... a radius of ... underwater boundary, & yes this would be
    Apr 10, 2004 @ 13:56 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  29. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    See my four insertions below. Lowell G. McManus Leesville, Louisiana, USA ... From: acroorca2002 To: Sent:
    Apr 10, 2004 @ 17:26 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  30. Re: Strange section chit border
    4 insertions too ... McManus ... the ... straight ... coordinate ... with ... the artificial ... construction of said ... sovereignty (by IBWC ... Thus,
    Apr 10, 2004 @ 20:22 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  31. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    I will reply without inserting. I think that the jumble below probably inhibits communication. The closest thing to a manmade feature that marks the boundary
    Apr 10, 2004 @ 22:00 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  32. Re: Strange section chit border
    ... probably inhibits ... true enough as i wasnt really looking for a closest thing anyway but only for a real cigar i mean in case the vatican cigar likewise
    Apr 11, 2004 @ 04:05 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  33. manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    ... 1929 delimited the ... well if i understand the italian rightly in http://www.globalgeografia.com/europa/scv1.htm the delimitation is primarily indicated
    Apr 12, 2004 @ 00:34 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  34. manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    for a complete & possibly better but still problematic english rendering of the possibly critical italian text or subtext please see part 1 article 3 here
    Apr 12, 2004 @ 16:28 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  35. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
    ... I can accept the figure/feature distinction, so we are in agreement. Lowell G. McManus Leesville, Louisiana, USA
    Apr 12, 2004 @ 20:21 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  36. manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    & now comes an official vatican version http://tinyurl.com/3gjob not only depicting these twin itva segments faithfully following some apparently curving
    Apr 12, 2004 @ 22:11 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  37. Re: [BoundaryPoint] manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    ... Remember back in 1981, when a Turkish prison escapee shot Pope John Paul II in St. Peter s Square? I remember that it was reported at the time that he was
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 00:43 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  38. Re: [BoundaryPoint] manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    Mike, ... If you will go to the map on the official Vatican site at http://tinyurl.com/3gjob , you will see the plan of the steps in front of the Basilica.
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 05:30 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  39. manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    good on this & your previous message too but as i realized & indicated when i first brought this http://tinyurl.com/3gjob the fix is in & all the steps & other
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 13:45 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  40. Re: [BoundaryPoint] manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    ... That is my assumption, as well. Lowell G. McManus Leesville, Louisiana, USA
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 15:02 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  41. manmade feature borders was etc
    heres one that shows a curving cobblestone & pavement edge with some sort of stanchions that might be border markers
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 15:27 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  42. Re: [BoundaryPoint] manmade feature borders was Re: Strange section chit border
    A February 10, 2004, press release from the Vatican Information Service, citing the following day as the 75th anniversary of the Lateran Treaty says, Vatican
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 15:48 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  43. manmade feature borders was etc etc
    nice & since the vatican herself says so then thats practically qed for http://www.globalgeografia.com/europa/vaticano/fig03a.jpg which evidently shows this
    Apr 13, 2004 @ 18:35 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  44. Re: [BoundaryPoint] manmade feature borders was etc
    ... In the photo at http://tinyurl.com/38lub and in the left drawing in Figura 8 on page 6 of the PDF at http://tinyurl.com/2mhxw you can see that the steps
    Apr 14, 2004 @ 01:31 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)