I, too, would love to know exactly how the Lateran Treaty of 1929 delimited the
boundary along and about the colonnade.
The MXUS boundary in the Rio Grande's wild segments is the natural middle of the
river. In the several artificially rectified and channelized segments, the
boundary is delimited in the 1970 treaty as a series of straight lines and
curved arcs, both geometrically described between coordinate points . The
largest curve is upstream of Hidalgo/Reynosa. It is an arc with a radius of
2,585.30 feet and length of 4,100.07 feet. Yes, this is an underwater boundary,
not as readily accessible as the Vatican step.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Strange section chit border
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > If you're looking for "a nonstraight linear manmade feature
> delineating a
> > border," I think a good example would be the artificially
> relocated and
> > channelized Rio Grande in several places.
> >
> > Do I correctly understand your quest?
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
> not sure there is any calling for a full blown quest here yet
>
> for one thing
> i dont know if the graphics we just saw overprinted on the vatican
> pix do accurately portray the actual verbal delineation in the treaty
> or if they are just someones not quite exact but best shot at it
>
> for if the curving edge of the top step of the colonnade should in
> fact hold up
> somewhere amidst all that italian fine print
> rather than the straight outer edges of the column bases
> as depicted by the line art
> then we still really have no better pilgrimage than to just stay
> right here & simply run our hand along this most obvious &
> available & truly rare if not utterly unique curving itva stone edge
>
> for i am not so ready to completely give up on such a beautiful &
> otherwise very apparent probability without better proof of its
> debunkment
>
> but if all such itva curve hopes should indeed prove to be a dead
> issue
> i would still imagine some nonstraight road centerlines could be
> found functioning as de jure borders & readily available
> somewhere
> before needing to resort to such arcane & speculative & possibly
> even underwater questing opportunities as you suggest
> since i am under the impression that the ibwc dictates the
> border as a periodically renewed geodesic continuum anyway
>
> in fact it was you who told me this
> wasnt it
> that the unmonumented parts of mxus are actually all ibwc
> designated straight lines now
> & that the true road to any boundary points truly situated on it
> thus runs thru el paso for that reason
> etc
>
> so i think before there is any real quest
> there is first a question as to whether there is any category at all
> here
>
> of course it wouldnt be hard to find de facto borders that run
> along the facades of walls or edges of stones
> say in cyprus
> but i think the most interesting thing about this category of stone
> edges
> if it even truly exists in de jure reality
> is that a stone edge rather than a stone center would perform the
> demarcation
> so one could actually feel the boundary line curving along under
> ones hand or foot
>
> but another reason i dont want to give up so easily on these
> colonnade edges is that they could also stand to be the worlds
> longest border markers
>
> & i realize this is all still just guessing & second guessing
>
> but before proceeding
> can anyone ferret anything more definitive about the actual
> delineation from these or any other itva texts
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