1. Enclaves
    Michael, I don t recall any mention of Carter Lake, IA which is almost completely surrounded by Omaha, NE. Apparently the river changed its course and left
    Mar 23, 2001 @ 23:01 - Jack Parsell ("Jack Parsell" <jparsell@gisco.net>)
  2. Enclaves
    Hi everyone: I m new to this group, so please forgive my efforts to come up to speed. I ve been interested in enclaves for the last ten years, ever since
    Apr 23, 2001 @ 19:17 - granthutchison@cs.com (granthutchison@...)
  3. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Grant, soulmate, I have procured a map of the Sultanate of Oman (from www.omnimap.com, by the way), which, apart from having Folding Instructions on the back
    Apr 23, 2001 @ 19:44 - Mats Hessman (Mats Hessman <Mats@...>)
  4. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    ... The map is labelled Map of the Sultanate of Oman, scale 1:1.300.000 and is printed in march 1996, and published by the National Survey Authority of Oman
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 07:22 - Mats Hessman (Mats Hessman <Mats@...>)
  5. Re: Enclaves
    For the extraterritorial parts of the Holy See, see (no pun intended) the Lateran treaty at http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/treaty.htm , especially articles
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 08:38 - smaardijk@yahoo.com (smaardijk@...)
  6. Enclaves
    Thanks everyone for your information. I guess I m still having trouble with this: if Italy says it has no territorial claim to an area, and the Vatican runs
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 18:54 - granthutchison@cs.com (granthutchison@...)
  7. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    it only differs in that llivia is also an exclave of spain while the holy see is legally only an exclave of god m
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 19:23 - michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Hi Grant & thanks for your comment. ... The Dhekelia Power Station is there, alright, but since I ve listed only enclaves that are also exclaves I haven t
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 19:24 - Rolf Palmberg LI ("Rolf Palmberg LI" <rpalmber@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Rolf, I have never heard of the Dhekelia Power Plant. Where is it excactly and how big is the area. And did you go there? Can you also tell us the story of
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 20:07 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  10. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    what yahoo may it help you &or others to know that the bp website search engine does work haltingly well but has to be pulled along by retyping the search word
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 20:33 - michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
  11. Re: Enclaves
    ... exclave! By gad you re right. For some reason I just assumed that a tiny enclave around a power station wouldn t connect to the coast. But I ve just found:
    Apr 24, 2001 @ 20:56 - granthutchison@cs.com (granthutchison@...)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    ... There are 4. The two villages and two areas around the powerstation, divided by a British road. One is on the coast, so it technically not an enclave, BUT
    Apr 25, 2001 @ 04:17 - Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves
    Oops. My answer is still ok, but there was a very annoying typo in ... Rolf ... From: granthutchison@cs.com Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue,
    Apr 25, 2001 @ 05:43 - Rolf Palmberg LI ("Rolf Palmberg LI" <rpalmber@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Brendan s info about two areas around the powerstation is new to me - thanks! Does this show on any map? Rolf ... From: Brendan Whyte
    Apr 25, 2001 @ 05:49 - Rolf Palmberg LI ("Rolf Palmberg LI" <rpalmber@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Hi Jesper ... It s clearly shown on most maps (on the coast), but I have to admit I know very little about it. And no, I haven t been there, just passed the
    Apr 25, 2001 @ 07:27 - rpalmber@abo.fi (rpalmber@...)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Rolf, Märket is real a great story. Do you know if the numbers on the map is marked on the ground? Jesper ... From: To:
    Apr 25, 2001 @ 19:07 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  17. Re: Enclaves
    ... Can you or Peter H. tell me where to find it? shows two additional enclaves that ... Kirs ... image ... the ... K ... In my old Soviet atlas (1987), I can
    Apr 27, 2001 @ 11:57 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves
    ... peter smaardijk wrote ... are you kiddin pal it is both punctological & cockabebble in the extreme & better silly than sorry for i dont know russko & can
    Apr 27, 2001 @ 13:46 - michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
  19. Re: Enclaves
    ... I only know it from Peter s uploaded image, I m afraid. ... of ... town ... of ... Lovely! This ties in with Brendan s estimate of about 6 enclaves in N.K.
    Apr 27, 2001 @ 16:47 - granthutchison@cs.com (granthutchison@...)
  20. Enclaves
    This is a question for the enclave capasities we have in our group. Which is the smallest enclave in the world? And if it is not in Europe, which one is the
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 13:47 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  21. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    I think it must be one of the Baarle enclaves...? Are they btw already numbered like the Cooch Behars? Jan
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 14:50 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@...>)
  22. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    For me it is difficult to judge without exact scales on my maps, but this enclave between Tommel and Gierlese straat is one of the smallest in Baarle. There is
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 15:04 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@yahoo.no>)
  23. Re: Enclaves
    The Loveren one is notoriously small. I have two maps of Baarle- Nassau/Hertog that don t show this one at all, and one that shows it as one that has been
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 21:02 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  24. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves
    Thanks for comments, Peter! Attached is an excerpt of the the Military Map of Baarle from 1962 (military.jpg) showing the Loveren one. But according to the
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 22:06 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@yahoo.no>)
  25. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Now I am commenting myself ;-) In the archive I found Brendans answer on this... Jan ... Ok, you asked for it. Here are two maps of Baarle village, one with
    Jun 24, 2001 @ 22:46 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@...>)
  26. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    Off the top of my head: the Vennbahn can be measured off the scans I posted. One of the maps has a scale on it. As for small enclaves, in India, the smallest
    Jun 25, 2001 @ 00:26 - Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
  27. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves
    yes, the treaty (in Belgisch Staatsblad/Moniteur Belge of 26/6/96) numbers them, as do many official maps. H1 to H22 for Belgian ones, N1 to N8 for Dutch.
    Jun 25, 2001 @ 00:36 - Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
  28. Re: Enclaves
    from message 2158 ... Base ... area ... maps ... the ... reports ... happened to the ... powerstation, divided ... enclave, ... and land. aha eureka & yoicks
    Dec 16, 2002 @ 21:27 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  29. Re: Enclaves
    & it looks like the map needed for confirming the coastal boundary may be found at this expired link in message 2155 so i wish grant or someone would kindly
    Dec 16, 2002 @ 21:42 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  30. Re: Enclaves
    ... It was always slightly blurred. Attached is a better image that I m sure has been previously posted to BoundaryPoint, but it takes less time to post it
    Dec 16, 2002 @ 22:06 - Grant Hutchison ("Grant Hutchison" <granthutchison@blueyonder.co.uk>)
  31. Re: Enclaves
    absolutely its a winner the winner thanx ... I m sure has ... to post it ... you aint kiddin it took me weeks to find even this
    Dec 16, 2002 @ 22:26 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  32. world class coastal boundary roundup
    besides the cygb coastal boundary just confirmed by grant & the weird cafr coastal boundary also just contemplated there is in addition the esfr condo coastal
    Dec 17, 2002 @ 06:36 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  33. Re: world class coastal boundary roundup
    ... in morning light all such subantarctic islands do prove to be stateless & so we have only yet another confirmed bust here but we do at least get to see our
    Dec 17, 2002 @ 14:08 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  34. Re: world class coastal boundary roundup
    ... Been there, done that. It s more believable if you know that the water and sand are heated by volcanic activity - you have to be careful not to boil a foot
    Dec 17, 2002 @ 22:08 - Grant Hutchison <granthutchison@blueyond ("Grant Hutchison <granthutchison@...>" <granthutchison@...>)
  35. Re: world class coastal boundary roundup
    mr president fantastic for i swear i had a feeling youd have to have been there right on the cutting edge of everyones land ... place ... amazing
    Dec 18, 2002 @ 01:29 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  36. Enclaves
    http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_enclaves#Enclaves_with_L egal_Status
    Dec 13, 2003 @ 20:54 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  37. Enclaves
    Sorry for bothering you all again, If you go to http://www.ethnia.org/ and search for enclave you will get 44 entries. Some of them are ex-enclaves.
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 01:59 - Christian Berghänel (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Bergh=E4nel?= <christian.berghanel@...>)
  38. Re: Enclaves
    Greetings, Christian, Verenahof is gone. It was traded to Switzerland by Germany in exchange for almost equal Swiss land immediately to its west. I have posted
    Feb 09, 2004 @ 01:21 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  39. Baarle on Deutsche Welle's European Journal
    I was watching Deutsche Welle s European Journal on a local PBS station when they started a story on Baarle. Gave a good overview of the situation of the town
    Mar 21, 2004 @ 01:14 - Andrew T. Patton (Andrew T. Patton <andrew@...>)
  40. Enclaves
    http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/11/e1e7b110-e5e5-4219-b4a4-6d6ed6d5f875.html
    Nov 14, 2004 @ 16:02 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)