Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves
Date: Apr 27, 2001 @ 13:46
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>--- In BoundaryPoint@y...,
peter smaardijk wrote

granthutchison@c... wrote:
>> 2)Peter Hering's fine Caucasus map
>
>Can you or Peter H. tell me where to find it?
>
> shows two additional enclaves that
>> might turn international, depending on how the current negotiations
>> between Armenia and Azerbaijan pan out. Within Nagorno-Karabakh are
>> two small Azerbaijani areas: one south of Stepanakert seems
>> (interestingly) to be centred around the mountain ridge of Buyuk
>Kirs
>> Dag (dieresis on each of the u's, breve over the g; = Big Kirs
>> Mountain in Azeri); the second is in the extreme NW corner of N-K,
>> centred on a town the name of which I can't read on the scanned
>image
>> (does anyone know what it's called?).
>> Both of these could become Azeri enclaves in either an independent
>> Nagorno-Karabakh or an N-K as part of Armenia, with or without the
>> Lacin corridor. (Then again, current negotiations seem to require
>the
>> return of the existing Azeri and Aremenian enclaves, so maybe the N-
>K
>> enclaves will disappear too.)
>>
>> Grant
>
>In my old Soviet atlas (1987), I can find more enclaves in/outside of
>Nagornyy Karabakh:
>Inside N.K. (so part of Azerbaijan proper):
>A) In the extreme n.w. part of N.K.
>B) Near the Byoyuk Kirs mountain (the transcription is from Russian
>and therefore not correct, I know)
>C) In the extreme s. part of N.K., about 10 km n.w. of the Azeri town
>of Dzhebrail (again transcribed from Russian)
>D) Approx. 12 km north of east of the N.K. town of Krasnyy Bazar
>(this is a Russian town name, possibly renamed later) and 12 km s. of
>the N.K. town of Martuni
>Outside N.K. (so part of N.K.):
>E) Approx. 17 km south of enclave B
>F) Approx. 10 km s.e. of the Azeri town of Agdam
>
>In none of the enclaves a settlement is depicted.
>
>P.S. the name of the area is Nagornyy Karabakh in Russian (in proper,
>scientific, transliteration: Nagornyj Karabach). The reason 'Nagorno'
>came into use is that the old full name in Russian was Nagorno-
>Karabakhskaya Avtonomnaya Oblast (Autonomous Province of N.K.). In
>the first, short form, Nagornyy is an adjective and has the
>appropriate suffix, in the latter, full form, Nagorno is an adverb,
>because Karabakhskaya is the adjective here to Oblast. Sorry for this
>little grammar lesson....
>
>Peter S.

are you kiddin pal

it is both punctological & cockabebble in the extreme

& better silly than sorry

for i dont know russko & can scarcely even transliterate it maybe
but had imagined the o of nagorno was just the normal russo inflection
corresponding to anglo nethero yanko or barbaro in our languages
& that the inflection skaya on karabakh is what actually governed the use
of this rare adverbial adjectival o conjugation

gonzo for grammar
m