1. cnkpru ?
    http://www.chinarainbow.com/english/wjhz/kfshq.htm
    Feb 03, 2004 @ 18:43 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  2. Re: cnkpru ?
    Yes, Jesper! Cf. http://www.cbprim.ru/rel2001/rel0148.htm Peter S.
    Feb 03, 2004 @ 21:37 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  3. Re: cnkpru ?
    Closer still... http://www.ecdc.net.cn/regions/english/tumen/huncun_e01.htm ...
    Feb 03, 2004 @ 22:38 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  4. Re: cnkpru !
    A popular photographer s spot.. http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/kuboshima/Yanbian/Hunchun/Hunchun.html http://member.netease.com/~hunchun/IMG/fangchuan.jpg
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 09:28 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  5. Re: cnkpru !
    That s why on this point there s a chinese observation tower as a tourist attraction. See at the bottom of:
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 12:37 - marcelmiquelcat ("marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@...>)
  6. [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
    Great pictures, but where are they taken from? I cannot make the map and pictures work out. There are two bridges at
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 16:59 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  7. Re: cnkpru !
    The only thing I can say is that http://homepage2.nifty.com/vladivostok/khasan3koku.jpg is one of the markers mentioned in the tripoint agreement. Probably at
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 22:22 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  8. Re: cnkpru !
    ... the ... location ... ... not CNRU marker no. 1 (and the number would be 423; this is also tripoint witness marker no. 1), but tripoint witness marker no. 3
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 22:31 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
    Great pictures, but where are they taken from? I cannot make the map and pictures work out. There are two bridges at
    Feb 04, 2004 @ 16:26 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  10. Re: cnkpru !
    From the maps, the tripoint is located in the middle of Tumugan river, north of the railway bridge connecting Korea PDR and Russia. Yet, as one picture shows,
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 13:25 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
  11. Re: cnkpru !
    Just to clarify: http://homepage2.nifty.com/vladivostok/khasan3koku.jpg = tripoint witness marker no. 3 (cf. agreement:
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 13:47 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
    Nice clarification, Peter. What it means is that none of the border markers are actually on the russian map from 1970 or mentioned on the other map. The
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 16:10 - Petter Brabec ("Petter Brabec" <petter.brabec@...>)
  13. Re: cnkpru !
    yes but i think that was already clear by message 12472 & it seems the question for us now that we have seen all these new pix is can we point to the actual
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 19:33 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  14. Re: cnkpru !
    Awesome, Michael! Congratulations and welcome to the club! Bill ... recently ... 10
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:02 - Bill Hanrahan ("Bill Hanrahan" <hanrahan@...>)
  15. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    Some more pics (they seem to connect): http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/nagune/p352.jpg http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/nagune/p081.jpg Peter S.
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:43 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    Border fence along the road? Jesper ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:51 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  17. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... Your guess is as good as mine. Time to do a GFABE? (Far East of course) Peter S.
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:53 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  18. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    GFEBE !
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:54 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    To few tripoints in the area. :-( GSEABE would be better. ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday,
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:56 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  20. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    GFEABE ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:54 PM Subject:
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:59 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  21. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    That fence looks like the one that was on the right hand side of the photo with the monument. ... ...
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:55 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  22. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    It must be a patrol road ... From: Doug Murray To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:08 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  23. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... this latter pic appears to be by far the best pic we have & if the fence observed by jesper does indeed mark cnru then cnru marker 1 aka 423 should be on
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:23 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  24. Re: cnkpru !
    ... are you sure you see 2 bridges i only see 1 bridge on this map anywhere near the triarea & we only see 1 bridge on any of the pix
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:30 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  25. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    What about that line of things (buoys?) just in front of the bridge, across the river? I think that the fence there has been put up by one of the countries
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:32 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  26. Re: cnkpru !
    ... There is another one further upstream. I have seen this CNKP bridge on other photographs. It isn t near the tripoint area for sure. Peter S.
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:35 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  27. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    yes thats a much better thesis so lets call that line of buoys the triline for now good explanation for it besides halfway across the river just as the treaty
    Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:42 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  28. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    May this page help us? http://vn.vladnews.ru/Arch/2003/ISS369/News/upd25.HTM There s a nice shot of a russian bordermarker near the tp. marcel ... countries
    Feb 06, 2004 @ 15:41 - marcelmiquelcat ("marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@...>)
  29. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    It s probably one of a pair of KPRU markers (on the RU side). It isn t CNRU marker no. 423 a.k.a. tripoint witness marker no. 1 - it s on the other side of the
    Feb 06, 2004 @ 16:00 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  30. Re: cnkpru !
    thank you grand dad of our country & what a little sharpshooter she is already
    Feb 06, 2004 @ 18:10 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  31. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    Is this the beginning of kpru? http://www.fegi.ru/prim/range/tuman.htm J ... From: Peter Smaardijk To:
    Feb 06, 2004 @ 19:27 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  32. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    On the 20th of June of 2002, the final protocol of the tri-junction of the boundaries between and among China, Korea DPR and Russia has been signed. Anybody
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 07:15 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
  33. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    Witness marker 1 (aka CN-RU 423): We know this is exactly on the CN-RU boundary and is exactly on the point where CN-RU hits the CNKP condo (CN-CNKP-RU). So
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 07:20 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@yahoo.com>)
  34. Re: cnkpru !
    ... 3). ... Message #12459 contains probably the best and most accurate description of the border markers and theirs location I ve seen yet. I suspect, that
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 08:35 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
  35. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    As I understand it: The border marker 423 is originally Russian- chinese only, but probably for the convenience of setting up a borderline which ends in the
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 10:15 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
  36. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... i figure you must mean the tripoint markers here petter not the tripoints themselves but i agree we are really talking about 2 distinct tripoints here
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 17:03 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  37. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
    http://babelfish.altavista.com actually translates from Japanese. Jesper
    Feb 07, 2004 @ 19:33 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  38. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    Funny, the decree from 1998 does not mention the 306,9 m from the border marker 1. If I follow you line of reasoning, this is because the entire line between
    Feb 08, 2004 @ 19:52 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
  39. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... whoops you are right & i thought thats where you were quoting it from hahaha but the text in message 12459 states no such distance er so where did you get
    Feb 09, 2004 @ 01:28 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  40. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/12472 Peter S.
    Feb 09, 2004 @ 16:51 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  41. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... from the ... right of course thanx again & funny that the russians dont want to have anything to do with the condo if they dont have to for here there is
    Feb 09, 2004 @ 23:45 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  42. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    ... from the ... right of course thanx again & funny that the russians dont want to have anything to do with the condo if they dont have to for here there is
    Feb 09, 2004 @ 23:53 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  43. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    You say: & i also agree it isnt clear whether the joint zone extends all the way to the korean bank nor does it apparently matter to the russians who have no
    Feb 20, 2004 @ 06:14 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  44. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    You wrote: i imagine there would have had to be some prior cnpk agreement regarding the exact borders of the joint zone which specified marker 423 aka 1 as its
    Feb 20, 2004 @ 07:13 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  45. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    hahahaha hahahahaha logn ilev sydlexia
    Feb 20, 2004 @ 14:52 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  46. Re: cnkpru - more pictures
    hahahaha etc for this one is really even funnier than cnpk mike but it is you who have your brains crossed here as i will explain at length below ... wait
    Feb 20, 2004 @ 15:29 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)