- cnkpru ?
http://www.chinarainbow.com/english/wjhz/kfshq.htm
Feb 03, 2004 @ 18:43 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru ?
Yes, Jesper! Cf. http://www.cbprim.ru/rel2001/rel0148.htm Peter S.
Feb 03, 2004 @ 21:37 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru ?
Closer still... http://www.ecdc.net.cn/regions/english/tumen/huncun_e01.htm ...
Feb 03, 2004 @ 22:38 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
A popular photographer s spot.. http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/kuboshima/Yanbian/Hunchun/Hunchun.html http://member.netease.com/~hunchun/IMG/fangchuan.jpg
Feb 04, 2004 @ 09:28 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
That s why on this point there s a chinese observation tower as a tourist attraction. See at the bottom of:
Feb 04, 2004 @ 12:37 - marcelmiquelcat ("marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@...>)
- [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
Great pictures, but where are they taken from? I cannot make the map and pictures work out. There are two bridges at
Feb 04, 2004 @ 16:59 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
The only thing I can say is that http://homepage2.nifty.com/vladivostok/khasan3koku.jpg is one of the markers mentioned in the tripoint agreement. Probably at
Feb 04, 2004 @ 22:22 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
... the ... location ... ... not CNRU marker no. 1 (and the number would be 423; this is also tripoint witness marker no. 1), but tripoint witness marker no. 3
Feb 04, 2004 @ 22:31 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
Great pictures, but where are they taken from? I cannot make the map and pictures work out. There are two bridges at
Feb 04, 2004 @ 16:26 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
From the maps, the tripoint is located in the middle of Tumugan river, north of the railway bridge connecting Korea PDR and Russia. Yet, as one picture shows,
Feb 05, 2004 @ 13:25 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
Just to clarify: http://homepage2.nifty.com/vladivostok/khasan3koku.jpg = tripoint witness marker no. 3 (cf. agreement:
Feb 05, 2004 @ 13:47 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
Nice clarification, Peter. What it means is that none of the border markers are actually on the russian map from 1970 or mentioned on the other map. The
Feb 05, 2004 @ 16:10 - Petter Brabec ("Petter Brabec" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
yes but i think that was already clear by message 12472 & it seems the question for us now that we have seen all these new pix is can we point to the actual
Feb 05, 2004 @ 19:33 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
Awesome, Michael! Congratulations and welcome to the club! Bill ... recently ... 10
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:02 - Bill Hanrahan ("Bill Hanrahan" <hanrahan@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
Some more pics (they seem to connect): http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/nagune/p352.jpg http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/nagune/p081.jpg Peter S.
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:43 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
Border fence along the road? Jesper ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:51 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... Your guess is as good as mine. Time to do a GFABE? (Far East of course) Peter S.
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:53 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
GFEBE !
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:54 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
To few tripoints in the area. :-( GSEABE would be better. ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday,
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:56 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
GFEABE ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:54 PM Subject:
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:59 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
That fence looks like the one that was on the right hand side of the photo with the monument. ... ...
Feb 05, 2004 @ 22:55 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
It must be a patrol road ... From: Doug Murray To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:08 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... this latter pic appears to be by far the best pic we have & if the fence observed by jesper does indeed mark cnru then cnru marker 1 aka 423 should be on
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:23 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
... are you sure you see 2 bridges i only see 1 bridge on this map anywhere near the triarea & we only see 1 bridge on any of the pix
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:30 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
What about that line of things (buoys?) just in front of the bridge, across the river? I think that the fence there has been put up by one of the countries
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:32 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
... There is another one further upstream. I have seen this CNKP bridge on other photographs. It isn t near the tripoint area for sure. Peter S.
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:35 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
yes thats a much better thesis so lets call that line of buoys the triline for now good explanation for it besides halfway across the river just as the treaty
Feb 05, 2004 @ 23:42 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
May this page help us? http://vn.vladnews.ru/Arch/2003/ISS369/News/upd25.HTM There s a nice shot of a russian bordermarker near the tp. marcel ... countries
Feb 06, 2004 @ 15:41 - marcelmiquelcat ("marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
It s probably one of a pair of KPRU markers (on the RU side). It isn t CNRU marker no. 423 a.k.a. tripoint witness marker no. 1 - it s on the other side of the
Feb 06, 2004 @ 16:00 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru !
thank you grand dad of our country & what a little sharpshooter she is already
Feb 06, 2004 @ 18:10 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
Is this the beginning of kpru? http://www.fegi.ru/prim/range/tuman.htm J ... From: Peter Smaardijk To:
Feb 06, 2004 @ 19:27 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
On the 20th of June of 2002, the final protocol of the tri-junction of the boundaries between and among China, Korea DPR and Russia has been signed. Anybody
Feb 07, 2004 @ 07:15 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
Witness marker 1 (aka CN-RU 423): We know this is exactly on the CN-RU boundary and is exactly on the point where CN-RU hits the CNKP condo (CN-CNKP-RU). So
Feb 07, 2004 @ 07:20 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@yahoo.com>)
- Re: cnkpru !
... 3). ... Message #12459 contains probably the best and most accurate description of the border markers and theirs location I ve seen yet. I suspect, that
Feb 07, 2004 @ 08:35 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
As I understand it: The border marker 423 is originally Russian- chinese only, but probably for the convenience of setting up a borderline which ends in the
Feb 07, 2004 @ 10:15 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... i figure you must mean the tripoint markers here petter not the tripoints themselves but i agree we are really talking about 2 distinct tripoints here
Feb 07, 2004 @ 17:03 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru !
http://babelfish.altavista.com actually translates from Japanese. Jesper
Feb 07, 2004 @ 19:33 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
Funny, the decree from 1998 does not mention the 306,9 m from the border marker 1. If I follow you line of reasoning, this is because the entire line between
Feb 08, 2004 @ 19:52 - pete2784west ("pete2784west" <petter.brabec@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... whoops you are right & i thought thats where you were quoting it from hahaha but the text in message 12459 states no such distance er so where did you get
Feb 09, 2004 @ 01:28 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/12472 Peter S.
Feb 09, 2004 @ 16:51 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... from the ... right of course thanx again & funny that the russians dont want to have anything to do with the condo if they dont have to for here there is
Feb 09, 2004 @ 23:45 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
... from the ... right of course thanx again & funny that the russians dont want to have anything to do with the condo if they dont have to for here there is
Feb 09, 2004 @ 23:53 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
You say: & i also agree it isnt clear whether the joint zone extends all the way to the korean bank nor does it apparently matter to the russians who have no
Feb 20, 2004 @ 06:14 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: cnkpru - more pictures
You wrote: i imagine there would have had to be some prior cnpk agreement regarding the exact borders of the joint zone which specified marker 423 aka 1 as its
Feb 20, 2004 @ 07:13 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
hahahaha hahahahaha logn ilev sydlexia
Feb 20, 2004 @ 14:52 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: cnkpru - more pictures
hahahaha etc for this one is really even funnier than cnpk mike but it is you who have your brains crossed here as i will explain at length below ... wait
Feb 20, 2004 @ 15:29 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)