1. NYNJ - My take
    You know what a polygon with infinite side is? It s a circle. And circles have a measurable perimeter, the circumference. My point? Don t automatically
    May 10, 2003 @ 03:48 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  2. Re: NYNJ - My take
    beautiful post pal ... correct it has been legally defined as what i would call a true follow the dots dance with some 60 or 80 or 180 points i forget which
    May 10, 2003 @ 14:06 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  3. Re: NYNJ - Here: official postal marking
    Arif s subject NYNJ reminded me that, when the US Postal Service issues stamps, its first days of issue ceremonies usually are a day in advance of nationwide
    May 10, 2003 @ 14:12 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NYNJ - My take
    Being a New Yorker, I could be your gracious host for a Hudson-East River border expedition. Besides Ellis Island, there are a few interesting county
    May 10, 2003 @ 17:06 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    Arif, ... There is no question that they are different countries. This was established by the 1931 convention that created the Commonwealth of Nations from
    May 10, 2003 @ 18:10 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  6. Re: NYNJ - My take
    wonderful thank you i accept & would certainly want to begin with ellis & imagine the moon & i will both be ready as soon as i can determine that all the
    May 10, 2003 @ 18:48 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  7. Re: NYNJ - My take
    very tastefully done maestro i am pretty sure there are actually at least 5 commonwealths in the usa tho i cant name them all with confidence i think i can
    May 10, 2003 @ 20:08 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  8. Re: NYNJ - My take
    Kevin, Re: Monaco & Vatican; the concept of their not truly independent is an odd thing for your to write when you are supporting a position that former
    May 10, 2003 @ 20:29 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  9. Re: NYNJ - Here: official postal marking
    i dunno i dont even think that was a question but my answer would be a postal cancellation actually performed precisely on a border particularly an
    May 10, 2003 @ 20:49 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  10. Re: NYNJ - My take
    ... breadth it ever ... Germany under a ... hahahahahahaha whattt
    May 10, 2003 @ 20:57 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    Len, ... France has long considered micro-states, especially those with special taxation arrangements, to be anomalies. In the case of Monaco, they have leaned
    May 10, 2003 @ 23:12 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  12. Re: NYNJ - My take
    ... I would agree that it s a matter of perception, in the same way that you can approach boundary measurement in different ways ;-) Touche on that one.
    May 10, 2003 @ 23:10 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  13. Re: NYNJ - My take
    ... that ... yes i am even touched now too for of course you can approach things differently & thank goodness but the truth you get from them depends only on
    May 11, 2003 @ 01:24 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    Mike, ... Any idea which of the states isn t a state? Puerto Rico is certainly a commonwealth rather than a state, but I assume you meant one of the 50? BTW -
    May 11, 2003 @ 09:04 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  15. Re: NYNJ - My take
    ... hahahahaha thank you more below Puerto Rico is certainly a ... one of the 50? a fair query but foul assumption i suppose that would be the promised
    May 11, 2003 @ 13:04 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NYNJ - My take
    I m hopefully going to be in New York in mid-June. In the meantime I m trying to get word from wither the National Park Service or Aramark (the concessionaire
    May 11, 2003 @ 16:07 - Asher Samuels (Asher Samuels <asher972@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    I never assumed that a dominion in the commonwealth was anything besides an independent country. Nor did I assume any of the commonwealths was anything
    May 11, 2003 @ 16:47 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  18. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NYNJ - My take
    Commonwealths as members of the union: PA, VA, MA, KY. Fifth commonwealth is not a state: PR
    May 12, 2003 @ 00:13 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  19. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    I believe there might be some misinterpretation here of the article regarding GIS determination of the NY-NJ Ellis Island boundary. The boundary is not the
    May 12, 2003 @ 02:33 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  20. Re: NYNJ - My take
    ... article ... boundary. The boundary ... has been ... federal government ... yes here apparently is one misinterpretation already because the article says
    May 12, 2003 @ 17:33 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  21. Re: NYNJ - My take
    all wonderful news asher & your visit will probably give us our best window of opportunity as well as enough time to get our best possible act together so i
    May 12, 2003 @ 17:40 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  22. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    As Charles Barkley named his book, I say I could be wrong...but I doubt it. Seriously though, it is just my opinion and no way the gospel truth, just as I
    May 13, 2003 @ 00:53 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  23. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take - OOPS!
    By the way, I should have been clear about something plus I should have been read some other parts of the supreme court case besides the history to answer my
    May 13, 2003 @ 01:45 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  24. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    I agree with your characterizations of the discussion, and btw, I am not wedded to a position on the issue; that s why I am discussing it, because I am
    May 13, 2003 @ 05:30 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  25. Re: NYNJ - My take
    i agree you have put your finger on an extreme anomaly as of 1834 very satisfying to see & would guess that its very extremity teamed up with the nj underdog
    May 13, 2003 @ 12:15 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  26. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    I considered writing this message just to Kevin, but I thought members of the group might support or oppose my viewpoint to educate me more. I totally
    May 13, 2003 @ 23:55 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  27. RE: [BoundaryPoint] NYNJ - My take
    I disagree only to the point that you belive treaty writers might use different terms to mean the same things; my experience is precisely the opposite. They
    May 14, 2003 @ 03:01 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  28. Re: NYNJ - My take
    bus&ss also indicates that the greater new york charter of 1897 placed ellis island under the jurisdiction of new york city by then & that the original
    May 14, 2003 @ 05:11 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  29. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NYNJ - My take
    No, your assumption is incorrect. Jurisdiction (in this case of NY over Ellis and Bedloes/Liberty and the surface of the Hudson even on the NJ side of the
    May 14, 2003 @ 17:37 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  30. Re: NYNJ - My take
    kevin i am again staggered by my incomprehension assuming you are talking to me just below if i may then i still dont know what assumption you are talking
    May 14, 2003 @ 20:46 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  31. Re: NYNJ - My take
    kevin i am again staggered by my incomprehension assuming you are talking to me just below if i may then i still dont know what assumption you are talking
    May 14, 2003 @ 18:05 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  32. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NYNJ - My take
    No, you misunderstood: In the Denver example, the city -- not the respective counties -- has jurisdiction over its parkland which is well outside the city in
    May 14, 2003 @ 22:00 - Flynn, Kevin ("Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>)
  33. Re: NYNJ - My take
    yes as i said before my incomprehension is staggering & continues to be so i am not really surprised to learn that i misunderstood but if i could ask are you
    May 15, 2003 @ 01:32 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  34. Re: NYNJ - My take
    excuse me kevin but upon further reflection & more careful review of the 1998 njny ellis case outline or syllabus
    May 15, 2003 @ 21:29 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  35. corrected url Re: NYNJ - My take
    by cosmic joke the url of this link in the original message actually contained a zero followed indistinguishably by an upper case o & i not only missed the
    May 15, 2003 @ 22:24 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)