1. Happy New Year!
    Doug Murray Productions / Border Films CBC Infomatrix / CBC POV Sports Vancouver BC Canada +1-604-728-1407 Best Vancouver excuse for being late for work: A
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 19:08 - Doug Murray ("Doug Murray" <doug@dougmurrayproductions.com>)
  2. Re: Happy New Year!
    ... nice production are you in belize yet & have you any news of bzgtmx or are you back in vancouver yet & have you any news of cafr
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 19:27 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Happy New Year!
    I am in Vancouver -- Belize on hold for a week or two. Logistics, mostly. No news on CAFR, however my topos are at the government map store -- and I will
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 19:33 - Doug Murray ("Doug Murray" <doug@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Happy New Year!
    Cannot wait to hear the great news from the tp-champ Doug. Jesper ... From: Doug Murray To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 19:34 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  5. Re: Happy New Year!
    doug may be our favorite & in a tie for bronze with you & harry at 19 tried by my unofficial count but i believe peter & rolf are now cochamps with 20 & in
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 20:07 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  6. Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    Hello folks, I have discovered a Finnish tourist map which seems to confirm the Swedish tourist map we discussed last year, that there might exist a small
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 22:42 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  7. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    Correction: The exclave(s) are certainly NOT on the eastern part of the _main_ Tornio River, but east of the border of one its delta rivers. Jan ... Outgoing
    Jan 01, 2003 @ 22:54 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  8. Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    ... confirm the Swedish ... small Swedish ... Haparanda. The ... Finnish territory. ... http://home.no.net/enklaver/borders/tornio_haparanda_map.htm ...
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 05:05 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    It s what I would call a pene enclave (practical enclave). Jesper ... From: Jan S. Krogh To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 05:45 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  10. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    Thanks for the comments! Of course they are on two international islands! Yesterday night I was tired, now it is morning and is SO clear... Let s call it pene
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 07:18 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  11. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    Btw - why not pene _exclave_ ? Jan ... From: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@image.dk] Sent: 2. januar 2003 07:46 To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 07:38 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  12. khlath demarcations
    Here is a link about the khlath demarcations of the Emerald Triangle: http://scoop.bangkokpost.co.th/bkkpost/2002/mar2002/bp20020327/news/27Mar200
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 08:23 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  13. Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    jan & jesper of course you can call things anything you want & pene simply means or used to mean nearly or almost or not quite in the original latin so
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 14:41 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  14. Re: khlath demarcations
    yikes it did seem too good to be true those land mines mightve made it much more exciting tho but wait i thought khlath was at a river junction so how could
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 14:51 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    For me there are official pene enclaves like Point Roberts, Jungholz, Klein Walsertal etc. Inhabited settlements only practically accesible through foreign
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 20:32 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    There are no ferries to Point Roberts (surprisingly) -- but there is quite a large marina. As a lot of boats moored there are Canadian boats, there must be an
    Jan 02, 2003 @ 23:13 - Doug Murray ("Doug Murray" <doug@dougmurrayproductions.com>)
  17. Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    has anybody considered what if the feral pigs were on an international golf course also dont worry about the maps or anything up there doug just think tropical
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 02:06 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  18. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda? -> Enclaves/exclave classes
    Mike, This sounds very interesting! I agree that if somebody should create enclave/exclave definitions it should be the members of BP! E.g. we could name the
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 08:42 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  19. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swedish exclave in Haparanda?
    Mike, The second island is the main island, Suensaari which is artificially connected with mainland Sweden and with a number of bridges. Jan ... From:
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 09:03 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  20. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    jan great idea & i would be glad to attend such a try at least as a kibitzer btw i think rolfs definitions are impeccable as far as they go it is just that the
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 17:13 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  21. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    Mike, Thanks for supporting the idea. I fell the times is here to go a step further. btw i think rolfs definitions are impeccable as far as they go Of course I
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 17:35 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  22. [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    You know what, I have given up calling all non-true-enclave situations as enclaves, as the different kinds of land area would confusingly all be called some
    Jan 03, 2003 @ 18:23 - Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
  23. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves/exclave classes
    ... Such a presumption would cause real problems for Denmark as Greenland is many times the size of the homeland ! Are there any more examples where an
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 16:55 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  24. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    ... & the big ... as Greenland is ... examples where an ... main part? no other world class examples at this time so far as i know tho i believe we saw a few
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 17:57 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  25. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    & there must be many cases like oahu & hawaii ... exclaves ... Denmark
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 18:00 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  26. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    many world class archipelagic states actually like new providence & the bahamas but these are maybe not so interesting a perfectly good one tho is bioko &
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 19:25 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  27. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    kevin ... or rather rio muni is the name of the part of equatorial guinea that answers the question properly & malaysia is another country that satisfies it
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 21:14 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  28. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    I m tempted to say that the part with the seat of government should be the main part and that the other section or sections are the exclave/s. Now it s up to
    Jan 05, 2003 @ 23:16 - Asher Samuels (Asher Samuels <asher972@...>)
  29. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes & iljosy
    ... should be the main ... hahahahaha youve condemned me to trying to bust a clavological postulate hahaha & i could never do that in a world that places such
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 02:09 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  30. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    Arif, It would be fine if we as a fellowship as much as possible could use the same terms and definitions about the different of geographical areas. Rolf
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 08:17 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  31. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves/exclave classes
    Kevin, Greenland is as a Danish biland of course not a part of Denmark, as Puerto Rico is not a part of the USA. Jan ... Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 08:38 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  32. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    ... use the ... areas. I agree. ... as I ... efforts ... definition ... exclaves ... I find it useful to think of enclaves/exclaves when the meaning is linked
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 11:20 - Peter Smaardijk <smaardijk@yahoo.com> ("Peter Smaardijk <smaardijk@...>" <smaardijk@...>)
  33. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves/exclave classes
    Hi Jan, ... Of course Greenland is considered to be a separate territory with it s own country code , but I understand that Denmark is still responsible for
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 12:07 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  34. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Enclaves/exclave classes
    Kevin, OK, I see. Of course Greenland is a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but not just Denmark ;-) Jan ... Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 12:20 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  35. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    peter ... belonging to ... yes i see tho it becomes crystal clear if you consider that this giant condominium of everyones land belongs not only to every
    Jan 06, 2003 @ 20:33 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  36. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    peter ... well the leading edge of everyones land as it emanates from its antarctic base toward the civilized world falls at least 3 & typically 12 nautical
    Jan 07, 2003 @ 17:34 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  37. Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    Hi all, I ve been basically offline for the last two weeks, and am now trying to conquer my very overfilled email inbox. Just a few comments on my use of the
    Jan 13, 2003 @ 11:08 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)
  38. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    Hello Rolf, I understand that you are not interested in sea enclaves - neither am I, but I am a bit puzzled why you don t include the Malawian exclaves on your
    Jan 14, 2003 @ 10:38 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  39. Re: SPAM: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
    Thanks Jan. This IS difficult, but I see your point. In fact, I had the Malawian exclaves listed on my enclave site a couple of years ago, then decided they
    Jan 14, 2003 @ 12:33 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)
  40. Re: Enclaves/exclaves again
    I have now included the Malawian islands in my list of enclaves/exclaves. But a tiny bit of me feels there s something illogical about it. Is this, btw, the
    Jan 16, 2003 @ 07:42 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)
  41. Re: Enclaves/exclaves again
    yes probably the only ones in a lake but i believe we have also encountered a whole archipelago in the parana or uruguay river involving an unknown number of
    Jan 16, 2003 @ 13:31 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
  42. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Enclaves/exclaves again
    Good boy. Jesper ... From: Rolf Palmberg To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
    Jan 16, 2003 @ 20:57 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  43. Re: Enclaves/exclaves again
    Your paragraph below accurately pinpoints the potential headache. Rolf
    Jan 17, 2003 @ 06:35 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)
  44. Re: Enclaves/exclaves again
    haha fortunately we are not trypointing for a headache tho & all these reflections are just a natural outgrowth of the desire expressed by jan & felt by many
    Jan 17, 2003 @ 15:21 - acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)