Subject: Re: Enclaves/exclave classes
Date: Jan 03, 2003 @ 17:13
Author: acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
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jan
great idea
& i would be glad to attend such a try
at least as a kibitzer

btw
i think rolfs definitions are impeccable
as far as they go

it is just that the 2 basic clave words already disappoint our
expectations for the symmetry & reciprocity they themselves
seem to promise but never deliver

moreover we have been strapped with the additional
misapprehensions & misnomers of generations of supposed
authorities

like the idea that the presence or interposition of the sea
somehow disallows clavity

or the presumption that the little pieces must be the exclaves &
the big piece the homeland
when all are equally parts of a single whole

or the idea of fragmentation itself
when nothing has actually been broken

etc etc

thats why for starters i prefer not to take the trouble of
distinguishing among all these muddledheaded ideas
but rather to just call everything by the single word clave
as well as to be as inclusive & nonrestrictive as possible

& when progressing into all the additionally problematic pene or
quasi areas etc etc
well fortunately i must stop here for now
but let me just take this opportunity to say on my way out the door
that perhaps my favorite abuse of language & logic in the entire
world is the inapplicable use of the military idea of a salient
when a territorial proruption is all that is ever meant by it

anyway more later if wanted

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jan S. Krogh"
<jan.krogh@t...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> This sounds very interesting! I agree that if somebody should
create
> enclave/exclave definitions it should be the members of BP!
> E.g. we could name the different pene/pyritic/virtual/quasi/
enclaves
> classes,
> like class I, class II;
> or
> pene(/etc.) enclave of Port Roberts class, of Jungholz class, of
> international tongues of land (shortened ITL) class etc.
>
> Personally I like the prefix quasi better, I think it is the most
> understandable for non English native speakers.
>
> What is important is to make exact definitions of each class,
because even
> if Rolf's definitions are good, I feel they are not always very
precise, but
> of course better than Mr. Biger's. It seems that now we have
finished more
> or less the search for international enclaves/exclaves, so
maybe it is time
> to take a closer look on all these sub enclaves/exclaves.
>
> Jan
> http://home.no.net/enklaver