1. ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    http://www.atlaskrajiny.sk/sk/myimages/2_sub_2.jpg
    Mar 20, 2004 @ 21:34 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  2. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    ... these are lovely & i wish their 2 remaining sister diagrams will arrive soon too of course atczsk is the greatest charmer having been selected as point 2
    Mar 23, 2004 @ 17:37 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    I have already written to the site authors requesting a better quality map, plus the other tripoints. Still wating patiently. I am very interested in seeing
    Mar 23, 2004 @ 21:28 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    I think they are roads/paths. Old iron curtain patrol paths. Jesper
    Mar 23, 2004 @ 21:36 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  5. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    ... quality map, ... scale, as I too ... person. ... blue arrow shows the ... was taken. ... ground ... map. Looks ... have known this ... crew is ... Mike
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 02:14 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  6. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    I think the 1st three pics are CZ instead of SK. Because the Sk monument was across the larger of the 2 streams and all by itself. Picture 2 - the small marker
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 06:01 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  7. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    what are the positively known facts however few they may be no matter & can anyone give us any graphical help to grasp just these & only these facts for
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 15:02 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Hallo, at this link, in Czech, the locals explain how the process of setting up the monoliths around the tripoint went, all the necessary measures and other
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 17:56 - Petter Brabec (=?iso-8859-1?q?Petter=20Brabec?= <pete2784west@...>)
  9. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/6091 Peter S. (acting as Pepijn H. ;-)) ... of setting up the monoliths around the tripoint went, all the
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 19:54 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  10. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Nice translation job and it spares me a job : ). But even you can see, that some pretty important sentences about distances and geometrical facts are left out
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 20:52 - Petter Brabec (=?iso-8859-1?q?Petter=20Brabec?= <pete2784west@...>)
  11. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    if the text & translation & my reading of it are all correct then the 3 obelisks define a circle with the tripoint at its center & the faces with the emblems
    Mar 24, 2004 @ 21:34 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  12. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    also does anyone know if the creek or creeks here are part of the scene just by chance or if 1 or more of the boundary delineations actually follow it or them
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 00:20 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    ok jesper thanx i just got this & took a second look at everything & basically i am encouraged that both you & rolf appear to be indicating wet prospective
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 14:36 - Michael Donner ("Michael Donner" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    I just want to apologize for making such a post and not verifying before pressing send. Mike is offcourse right. Picture 5, is still not showing any border as
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 22:41 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Enclosed picture taking from creek junction/tp proposed spot looking east along PLSK. Jesper ... From: m06079 To:
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 22:57 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    I remember in the area there were some direct markers and some indirect markers of the same style (white with red hat). ...
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 22:33 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Was there ice cream in the hat? ...
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 23:25 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Here is my sketch from the GEEBE. The x s mark the border. The 3 squares are direct CZ-PL markers. CZ-PL goes through a tiny little creek (creek not depicted
    Mar 25, 2004 @ 23:30 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@yahoo.com>)
  19. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    thanx mike now what i still dont understand is how jesper & you or rolf or anyone else decided where to place their particular version of the tripoint it seems
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 00:23 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  20. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Do the boundary agreements specify one or both of the streams as the boundaries, or do the lines just happen to meet in a stream bed? Lowell G. McManus
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 00:35 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  21. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    i dont believe we absolutely know yet if indeed either of these propositions is true but i may have missed something ... streams as the boundaries, ... border
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 00:42 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  22. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Heh - nice pic. But I think it is good to show just how deep that little gorge was - just how steep the sides of the walls are. Yahoo is taking forever to
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 03:19 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  23. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    Jesper - I agree - I think you have the situation correct regarding picture 5. Witness marker on the SK side. ... before ... monument
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 03:58 - Michael Kaufman ("Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>)
  24. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    You guys really managed to confuse me for a couple of days, but Mike s sketch helped me revisualise the scene and yes, my pic #5 therefore cannot be the PlSk
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 05:49 - Rolf Palmberg (Rolf Palmberg <rpalmber@...>)
  25. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    thats ok rolf your version may still be correct & i still dont think we can be sure of much yet even with the maps indeed if anybody is sure of anything at all
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 07:35 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  26. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    True, but I found out that the Czech website was altered after Pepijn made this translation, so he can t be blamed (check the old text on
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 12:16 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  27. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    ok thanx & wonderful to see the progressive ideas & tries of a fellow seeker too & i do assume these new improved data are indeed at least more nearly correct
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 14:42 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  28. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    also the texts of the agreements are evidently available online for any further corroboration anyone might want please i mean if anyone wants to just check
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 14:51 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  29. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    The CZSK boundary agreement is at http://www.podnikame.cz/zakony9597/index.php3?co=Z1997246 , but what we need is the protocol, mentioned in this agreement,
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 16:54 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  30. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    which may mean the true road to the true czplsk now loops back thru bratislava or at least thru a phonebooth perhaps to pursue the sources of the slovakian
    Mar 26, 2004 @ 18:05 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  31. Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
    yes i agree but given the difficulty of exact measurement on steep terrain anyway my guess is we can already find the truest available czplsk by just
    Mar 27, 2004 @ 16:41 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)