Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK border maps
Date: Mar 25, 2004 @ 23:30
Author: Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@yahoo.com>)
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Here is my sketch from the GEEBE. The x's mark the
border. The 3 squares are direct CZ-PL markers.
CZ-PL goes through a tiny little creek (creek not
depicted on sketch) very close to the tripoint. This
tiny creek runs into the larger brook which divides SK
from CZ and then SK from PL. 3 tripoint witness
markers not on sketch.

--- acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> wrote:
> if the text & translation & my reading of it are all
> correct
> then
> the 3 obelisks define a circle with the tripoint at
> its center
> &
> the faces with the emblems are perpendicular to the
> tripoint
> as well as horizontally equidistant from it
>
> but are all 3 obelisks at about the same elevation
>
> & again
> can anyone sketch the full layout
> whether within or without regard to the diagram we
> already have
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter
> Smaardijk"
> <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/6091
> >
> > Peter S. (acting as Pepijn H. ;-))
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Petter
> Brabec
> > <pete2784west@y...> wrote:
> > > Hallo, at this link, in Czech, the locals
> explain how the
> process
> > of setting up the monoliths around the tripoint
> went, all the
> > necessary measures and other trivia.
> > >
> > > http://www.volny.cz/obec.hrcava/trojmezi.html
> > >
> > > At the present moment, I'm unable to translate
> it, so anybody
> who's
> > interested can give it a shot. Otherwise, give me
> a day or two,
> and
> > I'll translate the core theme that, as I
> understand it from the
> > confusion up to now, is of interest to you.
> > >
> > > Petter
> > >
> > > Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > I think the 1st three pics are CZ instead of SK.
>
> > > Because the Sk monument was across the larger of
> the 2
> > > streams and all by itself.
> > > Picture 2 - the small marker was actually on the
> CZ-PL
> > > border - direct marker here.
> > > Picture 5 - my initial guess was that it looked
> along
> > > CZ-PL and that it was the PL marker. So now we
> have
> > > three different possibilites here! Really this
> is a
> > > confusing pic for me. Perhaps it looks at the
> SK
> > > marker from the tp? But this would not be along
> a
> > > border, just SK territory.
> > >
> > > --- Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > > I have already written to the site authors
> > > > requesting a better quality map,
> > > > plus the other tripoints. Still wating
> patiently.
> > > >
> > > > I am very interested in seeing especially
> CZPLSK in
> > > > a better scale, as I too
> > > > find it difficult too see what's going on,
> even
> > > > after being their in person.
> > > > I don't recall all spots.
> > > >
> > > > Please find enclosed the CZPLSK map with my
> arrows.
> > > > The blue arrow shows the
> > > > angle of which the photo on
> > > >
> > >
>
http://pikomat.mff.cuni.cz/fotky/tabor/1996/f01/24hrcava.html
> > > > was taken.
> > > >
> > > > The red arrow show where I believe I was
> sitting
> > > > pointing to the ground
> > > > facing south, which probably is not the
> tripoint
> > > > judging from the map. Looks
> > > > like it's further east. But it's a very
> difficult
> > > > tripoint because it's
> > > > inside forest and down a valley. It would have
> been
> > > > nice to have known this
> > > > map before we went there.
> > > >
> > > > Rolf's site gives a good view af all three tp
> > > > markers at
> > > >
> > >
>
http://www.vasa.abo.fi/users/rpalmber/BordersCRPS.htm
> > > >
> > > > picture 1, the PL tp marker left, SK right.
> Facing
> > > > south. The crew is
> > > > walking N on the path going up a long the
> border to
> > > > the road.
> > > >
> > > > picture 2, closeup on the PL and SK tp
> markers. I
> > > > wonder if Mike Kaufman
> > > > noted what the small red hat markers said.
> > > >
> > > > picture 3, closeup of SK marker
> > > >
> > > > picture 5, I think Rolf is wrong here. This is
> > > > facing S from the TP and show
> > > > the CZ tp marker. I remember the red hat
> marker
> > > > still said CS, so I must
> > > > have been an indirect marker from CSPL.
> > > >
> > > > picture 6, looks very different from mine??
> > > >
> > > > I have a picture facing east from the tripoint
> (or
> > > > where I belived it was).
> > > > Want to see it?
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:37 PM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
> ATHUSK/CZPLSK/ATCZSK
> > > > border maps
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Jesper
> > > > Nielsen"
> > > > > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > >
> http://www.atlaskrajiny.sk/sk/myimages/2_sub_2.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > these are lovely
> > > > > & i wish their 2 remaining sister diagrams
> will
> > > > arrive soon too
> > > > >
> > > > > of course atczsk is the greatest charmer
> > > > > having been selected as point 2 on gcebe
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/graenser/tripoints
> > > > > & then again as point 1 on geebe
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
http://www.geocities.com/graenser/geebe/tripoints.htm
> > > > > with some apparent improvement
> > > > >
> > > > > the other diagrams are harder for me to see
> &or
> > > > read tho
> > > > >
> > > > > for example could you show on the czplsk
> diagram
> > > > > where you are situated in the geebe point 2
> pic
> > > > above
> > > > > & where the monuments shown in the link
> below are
> > > > situated
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
http://pikomat.mff.cuni.cz/fotky/tabor/1996/f01/24hrcava.html
> > > > >
> > > > > which btw i found at your site too
> > > > >
> > > > > & what is the cause of my double vision on 2
> of
> > > > the vectors in the
> > > > > athusk diagram
> > > > > aka gcebe point 3
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> > >
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