1. Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Peers, Please have a look at http://berlin.enclaves.org Grab what you can while it is still there! Mats
    Oct 12, 2002 @ 21:48 - blofeld_es ("blofeld_es" <blofeld_es@...>)
  2. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Mats, A wonderful presentation. Great job. I wish there would be some photos from the spot during the war era. Jesper ... From: blofeld_es To:
    Oct 13, 2002 @ 07:26 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  3. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Hi to the group, my name is Wolfgang from Berlin. I m not Wolfgang you already know from this group, but I had some e-mail contacts with him before about
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 04:50 - Wolfgang Pietsch ("Wolfgang Pietsch" <wpi@...>)
  4. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Wolfgang P., Thank you very much for this interesting review! Jan, Vilnius, Lithuania
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 07:14 - Jan S. Krogh ("Jan S. Krogh" <jan.krogh@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Wolfgang, thank you very much for this excellent summary, that provided much new information to most of us here at BoundaryPoint. ... I need to own this
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 07:53 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@...>)
  6. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Wow thank you ... Why, are you planning to remove the site? Please don t. Concerning your challenge: Wouldn t that be a perfect task for the Berlin based
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 09:01 - anorak222 ("anorak222" <listen@...>)
  7. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... I don t, but meanwhile let me recommend something more available: An A3 map Die neuen Berliner Bezirke und die Geschichte des Berliner Stadtgebiets ; used
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 09:21 - anorak222 ("anorak222" <listen@...>)
  8. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Well, here it is, see Att. #1 taken from 4. Änderungs- und Ergänzungsplan zum Flächennutzungsplan vom 30. Juli 1965 (brrr... I won t translate this
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 13:05 - Wolfgang Pietsch (Wolfgang Pietsch <wpi@berlin.snafu.de>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Amazon doesn t have it but I found the book via http://de.shopping.yahoo.com/b_cher/ . Type keywords Berlin Geschichte Gegenwart 1995 into field Suchen
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 14:48 - Wolfgang Pietsch (Wolfgang Pietsch <wpi@...>)
  10. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Having loads of it!! ... OK, I ll give it a stab, although I m not a native… (the numbers were a bit hard to read sometimes, so check these, apart from
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 14:52 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... A map, anyone? M __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 17:29 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@...>)
  12. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... The location can be seen on Exklaven_1939_Map.jpg, the map posted by Wolfgang. On my (modern) city map, it should be somewhere in between the Heerstrasse
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 18:41 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  13. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Good Job Peter, tx !! Btw. you transferred all the numbers correct. ... Well yes, that was hard to read. It means 76 v.H. (von Hundert = per cent)
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 23:55 - Wolfgang Pietsch (Wolfgang Pietsch <wpi@...>)
  14. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Although the 1939 map is small, I believe in correctness of the locations drawn there. So I attach an actual city map with where I believe that Seeburg
    Oct 14, 2002 @ 23:55 - Wolfgang Pietsch (Wolfgang Pietsch <wpi@berlin.snafu.de>)
  15. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    I believe the boundaries of Berlin-West were assumed as a result of the list published in 1939 by the Katasteramt. In any case, a wartime list was
    Oct 15, 2002 @ 16:25 - L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Here is a more contemporary map of the same area circa 1973. It appears the enclave was in the Kol. Hauptgraben area. It s not marked of course. I would have
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 00:07 - Your Name ("Your Name" <johnkelly@astralvoyager.com>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ... --
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 00:36 - Your Name ("Your Name" <johnkelly@astralvoyager.com>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Somehow the picture cannot be viewed. Jesper ... From: Your Name To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:36 AM Subject: Re:
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 17:08 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  19. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... Right-klick save it on your hard disk. It is there. Probably just a wrong mime type declaration. Regards
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 18:57 - anorak222 ("anorak222" <listen@...>)
  20. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    ... exactly in fact this entire re re run picture no longer exists so none of it can be viewed in reality only in nostalgic dreams of the sweet misery of the
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 20:58 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  21. [BoundaryPoint] Re:-iteration, Berlin exclaves
    There is an update to http://berlin.enclaves.org for those interested in damp, grassy fields and wet cobblestone.
    Oct 16, 2002 @ 21:16 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@...>)
  22. Re:-iteration, Berlin exclaves
    ... Yes, I like that ! Very good ! Ready for some little corrections ? Here we go ... ... These stones are no typical bordermarkers. It s a so called
    Oct 17, 2002 @ 01:12 - Wolfgang Pietsch ("Wolfgang Pietsch" <wpi@...>)
  23. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    I found a picture of one of the Boettcherberg Exklaves. It was taken between 1984 and 1988 and shows a piece of the SW exklave. It seems they did put a wall
    Mar 20, 2003 @ 16:56 - John Kelly ("John Kelly" <johnkelly@...>)
  24. Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    I m a bit puzzled. Isn t it so that this site uses the word exclave for something that isn t an exclave? There were exclaves within Boettcherberg (the western
    Mar 20, 2003 @ 17:30 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  25. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    I am not absolutely sure that the picture shows one of the Bottcherberg Western exclaves within the city of Potsdam. Recognizing that the thorough fellows in
    Mar 20, 2003 @ 21:20 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@...>)
  26. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    Actually, after posting, I re-read the article and realized what it really said. Also, that part of the wall should have been convex, not concave, looking in
    Mar 21, 2003 @ 01:06 - John Kelly ("John Kelly" <johnkelly@...>)
  27. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re-run, Berlin exclaves
    hi, i tried to find a map, that shows the situation on boettcherberg. the best map i found i send as attachment. i found it here:
    Mar 21, 2003 @ 08:44 - chris (chris <23568@gmx.de>)