1. Shortest border??
    Anyone know what the actual shortest border is??? I doubt there is one single answer, maybe the Vatican-Italian border as a circle? Knights of Malta/Italy
    Sep 12, 2003 @ 21:50 - kontikipaul ("kontikipaul" <contikipaul@...>)
  2. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    ... Not sure if it s the shortest, but the ES-GI border is just 1.2 km. This is shorter than the VA-IT border. I think in a previous discussion, it was
    Sep 12, 2003 @ 22:00 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  3. Re: Shortest border??
    ... This is ... even ... Morocco. It was also ... sovereign state. ... it is esmo all right but not really an island as it runs across the narrow neck of a
    Sep 12, 2003 @ 22:54 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    But ESMO is still in total about 33 km long! http://home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/spanien%20in%20afrika.htm If you can count the shortest border like that I
    Sep 13, 2003 @ 19:56 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    ... It was also resolved that whilst SMOM has diplomatic status, it is not a sovereign state. SMOM is a international law subject, has observer state of
    Sep 13, 2003 @ 20:11 - udomet@gmx.de (udomet@...)
  6. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
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    Sep 13, 2003 @ 20:40 - udomet@gmx.de (udomet@...)
  7. Re: Shortest border??
    esmo as a whole is oranges the shortest known international land boundary in the world which is on esmo at penon de velez de la gomera is apples but come to
    Sep 13, 2003 @ 21:32 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  8. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    Udo, ... Maybe, but if it s not listed on ISO 3166-1, then it has a tenuous claim to be recognised as such. I appreciate there are some fairly autonomous
    Sep 13, 2003 @ 23:49 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  9. Re: Shortest border??
    well i would agree that if a place doesnt have an iso diglyph then it isnt a real country but i would not agree that having an iso diglyph definitively makes a
    Sep 14, 2003 @ 15:18 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  10. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    ... ISO 3166-1 doesn t just list countries, but distinct territories as well. ... Many of the national overseas territories on the list (including most of the
    Sep 14, 2003 @ 18:34 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    ... From: Kevin Meynell To: Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint]
    Sep 14, 2003 @ 18:53 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  12. Re: Shortest border??
    kevin back to my original answer to your original question & even including jespers admirable hans island pipe dream border as if it were already real & of
    Sep 14, 2003 @ 21:21 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    ... I don t, but I was just pointing out (albeit not multipointing out ;-)) that if one wishes to be strictly correct about such things, territorial identities
    Sep 14, 2003 @ 23:22 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  14. Re: Shortest border??
    ... ownership of an ... ;-)) hahaha vive la difference & la compagnie & more below ... territorial ... say CA-FR ... ok good point in any case tho i believe it
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 00:22 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  15. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    ... While I m certain that the State of the Vatican City is a country, I think there is some difference between it and the Holy See. I know that they have
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 02:48 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  16. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    ... What about all of the countries that existed between the beginning of civilization and 1945? Were they all odd crabapples ? Surely we can come up with a
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 04:10 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  17. RE: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    Gibraltar Spain is very short with only one entry point ... From: kontikipaul [mailto:contikipaul@hotmail.com] Sent: 12 September 2003 22:50 To:
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 06:55 - Bill Burke ("Bill Burke" <billb@...>)
  18. Re: Shortest border??
    ... beginning of ... well thats not what i meant by this conceit i was talking about cutting directly to the chase in the present & was comparing iso diglyph
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 09:41 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  19. Re: Shortest border??
    nice question & responding not as a religionist but only a devout philologist i can report that the vatican hill of rome was the original seat of etruscan
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 16:04 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  20. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Shortest border??
    ... According to the UN website, there are only 191 member nations. This tallies with the ISO 3166-1 total of 195 if you include the Holy See, Taiwan, Western
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 17:19 - Kevin Meynell (Kevin Meynell <kevin@...>)
  21. Re: Shortest border??
    thanx kevin that is a very interesting & telling comparison & it reminds me that since we have been counting both of the western sahara eh tripoints among our
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 19:32 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  22. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    Okay, Mike. I understand what you re saying. You re speaking of the practical, in the here-and-now. I was thinking more of a theoretical definition that
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 21:11 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  23. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    Yes, the term Vatican City State is undoubtedly redundant in this case, but the official name of the political entity is Stato della Cittá del Vaticano.
    Sep 15, 2003 @ 22:47 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  24. best available resolution
    on further reflection i dont want to have to maintain that either western sahara or palestine are real countries yet since lets face it they arent but are
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 01:44 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  25. Re: Shortest border??
    About Hans Island... I still have yet to find it on a map, though I am told it lies in the Nares Strait. But I did find this interesting article written by a
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 05:35 - adamnvillani ("adamnvillani" <avillani@...>)
  26. Re: Shortest border??
    & for the ensemble http://www.pressherald.com/news/state/030915grayzoneside.shtml
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 15:00 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  27. Re: best available resolution
    & just to finally close out the census of the 193 countries & of the world class continental multipoints they combine to produce & without prejudice as to the
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 17:55 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
  28. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    Hans Island is located 80 49N, 66 28 W. Between position 122 and 123 on attached treaty map. There is no line defined between these two points. Jesper ...
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 18:05 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  29. Re: Shortest border??
    How does one view the attachment? I m using Internet Explorer. If I go down to where the attachment box is and click on it, nothing happens. Adam
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 18:22 - adamnvillani ("adamnvillani" <avillani@...>)
  30. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    Cannot see through IE. Should I send it to you personally? Jesper ... From: adamnvillani To: Sent:
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 18:25 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  31. Re: Shortest border??
    it is viewable at the gmane news group site given on the bp home page
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 21:01 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
  32. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest border??
    ... From: acroorca2002 To: Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Shortest
    Sep 16, 2003 @ 21:27 - John Seeliger ("John Seeliger" <jseelige@...>)
  33. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: best available resolution
    1. Shouldn t we count binational quadripoint in our list of world class multipoints? This would increase the total past the 160 mark. Unless we make the case
    Sep 22, 2003 @ 05:17 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  34. Re: best available resolution
    brownlie is professor of international law ian brownlie & for bp purposes especially his humongous 1979 border bible entitled african boundaries a legal &
    Sep 22, 2003 @ 14:06 - m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)