- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
Hi all, Someone indicated to me the existence of a Turkish exclave within Syria, located on the east bank of the River Euphrates, east of Membij, on the main
Jan 17, 2002 @ 06:52 - rpalmber@abo.fi (rpalmber@...)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
Now that s sisu if I ve ever heard it! Bill ... From: rpalmber@abo.fi To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:52 AM Subject: Re:
Jan 17, 2002 @ 11:59 - Bill Hanrahan ("Bill Hanrahan" <hanrahan@...>)
- RE: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
...somebody else who want a North Norwegian island? Jan (Generous Norwegian) ... From: Bill Hanrahan [mailto:hanrahan@kua.net] Sent: 17. januar 2002 14.00 To:
Jan 18, 2002 @ 09:47 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@...>)
- RE: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
... thanx jan & you are that so i will take one please too for some summer times & will call it rostah cay too if i may while for now jc & i are heading still
Jan 18, 2002 @ 20:09 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... This tomb was Turkish property under Article 9 of the 1921 Treaty of Ankara between Turkey and France: The mausoleum of Suleiman Shah, the grandfather of
Jan 19, 2002 @ 00:58 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... Well, actually, on re-reading, it says it was moved, but not necessarily by the Syrians. And this site, later again, implies that the tomb was moved by the
Jan 19, 2002 @ 01:28 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... to ... then its a frag&perf isnt it & so how does your ongoing worldwide frag&perf census stand now with this & the new uruguayan islands added m also have
Jan 19, 2002 @ 17:22 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... Well, it seems more like one of Arif s virtual enclaves to me. The treaty wording is that the tomb will be the property of Turkey, and Turkey will place
Jan 19, 2002 @ 21:40 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... That s *193* basic nations. (Gad, these typos are easy to commit, aren t they?) Grant
Jan 20, 2002 @ 00:26 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria? -> mdua border changes
Grant Hutchison: (...)I always think I m looking complete, but I never am. I just try to update the Perfs & Frags file whenever anything new comes along. Ray
Jan 20, 2002 @ 12:44 - ps1966nl ("ps1966nl" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: mdua border changes
Cf. http://www.rferl.org/newsline/2001/07/130701.asp : MOLDOVA, UKRAINE, APPROVE ACCORD ON SWAPPING TERRITORIES The parliaments of Moldova and Ukraine on 12
Jan 20, 2002 @ 12:57 - ps1966nl ("ps1966nl" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
I cannot spot the Moldovan part of the highway, was is handed over much earlier than my maps. The other swop along the Danube, could very well have moved the
Jan 20, 2002 @ 13:14 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
Attached, three fragments of my 1994 Moldavian map (1:400k): 1. Palanca 2. Giurgiulesti. I agree that the tripoint has probably moved since. 3. Basarabeasca.
Jan 20, 2002 @ 14:04 - Peter Smaardijk (Peter Smaardijk <smaardijk@yahoo.com>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
Thanks Peter It s actually a very interesting area, and it reaises my interesting questions and points: This 2001 map also show the Moldovian part of the
Jan 20, 2002 @ 14:12 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
Jesper Nielsen wrote: (...)This 2001 map also show the Moldovian part of the highway: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/moldova_pol01.jpg Was it
Jan 20, 2002 @ 14:26 - Peter Smaardijk (Peter Smaardijk <smaardijk@yahoo.com>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
That map is great. The new border must go in between Palanca and A290. It would be great to get hold of a new map. The other side of A290 looks rather wet, so
Jan 20, 2002 @ 14:46 - Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen ("Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria? -> mdua border changes
... Ah, brilliant! Thank you. That s the one. I ve been thrashing around the web for days looking for English info and finding nothing. Your second map also
Jan 20, 2002 @ 15:37 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
... they seem universally allowed at bp because we are all allowers but i for one have difficulty grasping & thus embracing the pene words because i think they
Jan 20, 2002 @ 20:36 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
- RE: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
m, We are certainly not giving away our islands solely for summer holidays!! But you are welcome to spend your summer holiday in the Lofoten Isl. and you will
Jan 20, 2002 @ 20:36 - Jan Krogh ("Jan Krogh" <jakro64@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... well ok but dont you also think we still need to see the treaty texts to settle all questions like this & perhaps also to set some kind of standard or
Jan 20, 2002 @ 20:54 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... texts to ... Yesyesyes. But I think what I m quoting there *is* Article 9 of the Treaty of Ankara, at least in translation - I plucked it from a website
Jan 20, 2002 @ 21:11 - granthutchison ("granthutchison" <granthutchison@...>)
- RE: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
... gainesville fl again thanx jan & i will try to meet this expectation tho i may need a diplomatic passport last nite & this morning we visited 2 additional
Jan 20, 2002 @ 21:31 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
- Re: mdua border changes
michael donner wrote: (...)logic & sense dictate that things be named logically & sensibly that is in this case at least named for how they are treated as you
Jan 20, 2002 @ 21:33 - ps1966nl ("ps1966nl" <smaardijk@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mdua border changes
... hahaha right well their function is communication anyway now that you have said this tho i think i do understand what you guys understand by these words
Jan 20, 2002 @ 21:51 - m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Turkish exclave in Syria?
Thank you Grant for your helpful info on the Turkish tomb in Syria! Rolf
Jan 21, 2002 @ 06:04 - Rolf Palmberg LI ("Rolf Palmberg LI" <rpalmber@...>)
- ER-ET outcome?
Great sleuthing on MD-UP swap, Peter. Moldovan source is Russian is quite useful. I have not seen the actual legislation and maps. I m currently taking
Jan 21, 2002 @ 14:20 - Ray Milefsky ("Ray Milefsky" <mrrayj@...>)
- Re: Turkish exclave in Syria?
... hey that nothing i just wrote chkpru for cnkpru arpa for aruy etc etc & havent even bothered to renew my poetic license but the eshoni or rather eshonu if
Jan 21, 2002 @ 16:45 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Mount Paektu: CH-DRNK
I ve got another challenge for you folks. Korean and Chinese (and US) maps show the boundary around Mt Paektu, the sacred volcano-lake differently. China now
Jan 24, 2002 @ 01:17 - Ray Milefsky ("Ray Milefsky" <mrrayj@...>)