- Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Enclosed picture of DEDK buoys from the North Sea. Taken from the excellent book on DEDK: Told- og Statsgrænse Danmark/Tyskland 1920-1995 by Aage Emil Hansen
 May 04, 2003 @ 05:50 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 can you square this with what you said in message 9823 it seems to me the buoys are more probably either border markers or navigational aids but not likely to
 May 04, 2003 @ 11:39 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Msg. 9823 was regarding DKSE This is regading DEDK Jesper ... From: acroorca2002 To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:39 PM Subject:
 May 04, 2003 @ 15:41 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ok then are these territorial sea buoys or eez buoys or both for in each case you may be on the track of our first tripoint buoy ... Was: FRGB ... Statsgrænse
 May 04, 2003 @ 16:14 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 actually the finose monument looks like it may be buoyant some of the time come to think of it notwithstanding the pedestrian access platform tho it is hard to
 May 04, 2003 @ 16:44 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 To the best of my knowledge, FINOSE it a wet tp marker. Jesper ... From: acroorca2002 To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 6:44 PM
 May 04, 2003 @ 17:04 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 territorial sea Jesper ... From: acroorca2002 To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime
 May 04, 2003 @ 17:05 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 thanx & does the book then not say whether the terminal buoy marks the terminal point of the dedk territorial sea boundary for that would be the same as the
 May 04, 2003 @ 18:33 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 i guess it is just a question then of whether the monument is resting permanently on the lake bed or whether it is only moored & therefore a true buoy ... Was:
 May 04, 2003 @ 18:38 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 No more in the book regarding the buoys. The DEDK treaty in Danish: http://www.retsinfo.dk/_GETDOC_/ACCN/L19230049764-AFGR I have seen the English version in a
 May 04, 2003 @ 19:20 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Best DEDK maritime border map, I have at present Jesper ... From: Jesper Nielsen To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:20 PM Subject:
 May 04, 2003 @ 19:53 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- FINOSE wet or dry WAS: Marked maritime boundaries
 To my knowledge FINOSE is a giant concrete blob standing in a river. The water is rather shallow at the location, and as the water level of the rivers up north
 May 04, 2003 @ 20:44 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@yahoo.com>)
- Re: FINOSE wet or dry WAS: Marked maritime boundaries
 thanx that is unmistakable so evidently the tripoint itself is practically always dry except in the rain or perhaps highest flood & the monument surmounts or
 May 04, 2003 @ 21:49 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ok well this map & the geocoords in the agreement linked to the danish agreement below do suggest that all the dedk turn points & therefore possibly all the
 May 04, 2003 @ 22:18 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ... EV? Does that mean international waters? Seems there isn t any in the North Sea. We had maps about North Sea continental shelf borders in MSG #9081 and
 May 05, 2003 @ 11:17 - anorak222 ("anorak222" <listen@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Yes, buoys must be in internal water. I will try to get a better map today. On byus, I, Peter H, and two other border freaks will visit these DEDK lake buys on
 May 05, 2003 @ 11:38 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ... any ... any in the North Sea. We had maps about North Sea continental shelf borders in MSG #9081 and #9127, which should explain the situation. ... yes it
 May 05, 2003 @ 14:37 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ... DEDK lake buys on Monday. excellent adventure & this will be a first on the international level vis vobiscum
 May 05, 2003 @ 14:41 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Attached picture of Øresunds Bridge, with navigational channel buoys. DKSE is further left, as the bridge here is entirely on Swedish grounds . I still
 May 05, 2003 @ 15:13 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Map of border and bridge. Buoys apparenly numbered. By why EEZ? Jesper ... From: Jesper Nielsen To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003
 May 05, 2003 @ 15:19 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Here is a map that indicates Border Buoy G1 and G2. G1appears to be the from on the book scan. Jesper ... From: Jesper Nielsen To:
 May 05, 2003 @ 17:51 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 yes g1 looks as tho it might be the most seaward one & it is still well within the coastal base lines & internal waters once past the islands & into the open
 May 05, 2003 @ 18:27 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries: Thailand
 How changed thai boundary since 1968: http://www.cfcambodge.org/Anglais/images/eauthai.gif
 May 05, 2003 @ 18:43 - Artur Kroc ("Artur Kroc" <kroc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ... buoys. DKSE is further left, as the bridge here is entirely on Swedish grounds . ... it certainly is the longest but only if you think a tunnel isnt a
 May 05, 2003 @ 18:46 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries: Honduras
 http://www.marrder.com/htw/dec99/national.htm
 May 05, 2003 @ 18:46 - Artur Kroc ("Artur Kroc" <kroc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 ... yes exactly why indeed because this too is a territorial sea boundary & not an eez boundary properly so called assuming the bridge is way less than 24nm
 May 05, 2003 @ 19:30 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 Actually the Øresunds Bridge is a combined bridge/tunnel: http://www.oeresundsbron.com/index.php?obj=1000029 Jesper ... From: acroorca2002 To:
 May 05, 2003 @ 19:35 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries: Honduras
 ... thanx artur for this very interesting find leading also to http://ssdc.ucsd.edu/news/claea/h98/claea.19980212.html which updates the hnnisv tridominium
 May 05, 2003 @ 20:57 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries: Thailand
 ... probably somewhat like this http://www.aseanenergy.org/information/news/2003/march/news _21.htm but again there doesnt seem to be any reason to believe
 May 05, 2003 @ 22:27 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Maritime boundary: us&ci
 http://www.vanuatu.usp.ac.fj/pactreaties/Treaties_etc/treaties_U.S.A._ &_Cook_Islands.html
 May 05, 2003 @ 22:47 - Artur Kroc ("Artur Kroc" <kroc@...>)
- Delimitation of maritime boundary: usca
 http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/cijwww/icjwww/igeneralinforma tion/ibbook/Bbook8-1.49.htm
 May 05, 2003 @ 22:46 - Artur Kroc ("Artur Kroc" <kroc@...>)
- Re: Delimitation of maritime boundary: usca
 ... http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/cijwww/icjwww/igeneralinforma ... http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/canada&the_world/canada&us_bo
 May 05, 2003 @ 22:54 - Artur Kroc ("Artur Kroc" <kroc@...>)
- Re: Delimitation of maritime boundary: usca
 ... http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/cijwww/icjwww/igenerali nforma ... http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/canada&the_world/ca nada&us_bo ...
 May 06, 2003 @ 03:12 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 maps showing both the continental shelf or eez limits & the territorial sea limits are rare but http://www.veridian.com/offerings/images/maritime_large.jpg
 May 06, 2003 @ 15:24 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
- Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
 better yet & to reduce the multipartite confusion down to bipartite simplicity be sure to check out the 6 authoritative as well as breathtaking maps of
 May 06, 2003 @ 15:51 - acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)