Subject: Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB<br/>
Date: May 05, 2003 @ 14:37<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-242446759">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;anorak222&quot; <br/>
&lt;listen@w...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;acroorca2002&quot; <br/>
 </span></blockquote>&lt;orc@o...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt; so if true then i think that may dash all hope of there being <br/>
 </span></blockquote>any <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt; dedkev territorial sea tripoint buoy<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; EV? Does that mean international waters? Seems there isn&#39;t <br/>
 </span></blockquote>any in the North Sea. We had maps about North Sea continental <br/>
shelf borders in MSG #9081 and #9127, which should explain <br/>
the situation.<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; Regards<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>yes it explains a lot but clearly i should explain too<br/>
<br/>
tho sovereign rights are exercised by the various countries over <br/>
their eezs as well as over their inclusive & protruding continental <br/>
shelves<br/>
the actual sovereignty of all maritime territory beyond the <br/>
territorial seas of no more than 12nm from coastal baselines <br/>
remains everyonese<br/>
<br/>
for the actual sovereignty of such territory is legally reserved as <br/>
much to all the landlocked countries of the world & all human <br/>
posterity as to the claimant coastal states<br/>
who do exercise sovereign rights over it <br/>
but no actual sovereignty anywhere beyond their territorial seas<br/>
<br/>
& i realize it is as tho they have appropriated all the bedding <br/>
while leaving us everyonese only the bed frame<br/>
but that was the only concession the politically weak landlocked <br/>
countries were able to manage<br/>
<br/>
so i believe there really is an everyonese sovereign tripoint <br/>
for whatever it is worth<br/>
wherever a territorial sea boundary terminates <br/>
as it must when it reaches 12nm from coastal base lines<br/>
<br/>
but i also realize that these everyonese tripoints also normally <br/>
mark the beginning points of the sovereign rights zones<br/>
& these simultaneously produce a sort of binational quadripoint <br/>
with the corresponding pair of sovereign territories <br/>
right on top of the trisovereign point<br/>
<br/>
these complex points arent shown on the maps you reference<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& finally there are also sovereign rights tripoints at the seaward <br/>
end of eez & protruding shelf boundaries<br/>
where the undiminished part of everyones land kicks in<br/>
<br/>
but i realize there are none of these in the north sea<br/>
& it is evidently these that you are talking about<br/>
so i do agree with you to that extent<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& i have been using ev informally here to symbolize all such <br/>
everyones land &or water<br/>
enclosed within both of these legal maximum & minimum limits<br/>
as erected by the law of the sea treaties <br/>
& incidentally also by the antarctic treaty<br/>
<br/>
& there may well be iso symbols to indicate each of these wet & <br/>
dry portions respectively of everyones land<br/>
i dont know<br/>
but i have been taking the liberty of using ev here <br/>
to indicate all of everyones land & water at once<br/>
for which i doubt there is any other symbol available or in use</div>