Subject: Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
Date: May 06, 2003 @ 15:24
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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maps showing both the continental shelf or eez limits & the
territorial sea limits are rare but
http://www.veridian.com/offerings/images/maritime_large.jpg
shows them admirably well for the entire world
while necessarily leaving one to imagine or squint for the
multipoints

the pairs of lines that can be seen on this map shadowing all
coasts at distances of roughly 12nm & 200nm
mark the limits of sovereign territorial seas & eezs respectively
& thus simultaneously represent the maximium & minimum
limits of everyonese sovereignty

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "anorak222"
> <listen@w...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > so if true then i think that may dash all hope of there being
> any
> > > dedkev territorial sea tripoint buoy
> >
> > EV? Does that mean international waters? Seems there isn't
> any in the North Sea. We had maps about North Sea
continental
> shelf borders in MSG #9081 and #9127, which should explain
> the situation.
> >
> > Regards
>
> yes it explains a lot but clearly i should explain too
>
> tho sovereign rights are exercised by the various countries over
> their eezs as well as over their inclusive & protruding
continental
> shelves
> the actual sovereignty of all maritime territory beyond the
> territorial seas of no more than 12nm from coastal baselines
> remains everyonese
>
> for the actual sovereignty of such territory is legally reserved as
> much to all the landlocked countries of the world & all human
> posterity as to the claimant coastal states
> who do exercise sovereign rights over it
> but no actual sovereignty anywhere beyond their territorial seas
>
> & i realize it is as tho they have appropriated all the bedding
> while leaving us everyonese only the bed frame
> but that was the only concession the politically weak
landlocked
> countries were able to manage
>
> so i believe there really is an everyonese sovereign tripoint
> for whatever it is worth
> wherever a territorial sea boundary terminates
> as it must when it reaches 12nm from coastal base lines
>
> but i also realize that these everyonese tripoints also normally
> mark the beginning points of the sovereign rights zones
> & these simultaneously produce a sort of binational
quadripoint
> with the corresponding pair of sovereign territories
> right on top of the trisovereign point
>
> these complex points arent shown on the maps you reference
>
>
> & finally there are also sovereign rights tripoints at the seaward
> end of eez & protruding shelf boundaries
> where the undiminished part of everyones land kicks in
>
> but i realize there are none of these in the north sea
> & it is evidently these that you are talking about
> so i do agree with you to that extent
>
>
> & i have been using ev informally here to symbolize all such
> everyones land &or water
> enclosed within both of these legal maximum & minimum
limits
> as erected by the law of the sea treaties
> & incidentally also by the antarctic treaty
>
> & there may well be iso symbols to indicate each of these wet
&
> dry portions respectively of everyones land
> i dont know
> but i have been taking the liberty of using ev here
> to indicate all of everyones land & water at once
> for which i doubt there is any other symbol available or in use