Subject: Re: Marked maritime boundaries Was: FRGB
Date: May 06, 2003 @ 15:24
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "anorak222"continental
> <listen@w...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > so if true then i think that may dash all hope of there being
> any
> > > dedkev territorial sea tripoint buoy
> >
> > EV? Does that mean international waters? Seems there isn't
> any in the North Sea. We had maps about North Sea
> shelf borders in MSG #9081 and #9127, which should explaincontinental
> the situation.
> >
> > Regards
>
> yes it explains a lot but clearly i should explain too
>
> tho sovereign rights are exercised by the various countries over
> their eezs as well as over their inclusive & protruding
> shelveslandlocked
> the actual sovereignty of all maritime territory beyond the
> territorial seas of no more than 12nm from coastal baselines
> remains everyonese
>
> for the actual sovereignty of such territory is legally reserved as
> much to all the landlocked countries of the world & all human
> posterity as to the claimant coastal states
> who do exercise sovereign rights over it
> but no actual sovereignty anywhere beyond their territorial seas
>
> & i realize it is as tho they have appropriated all the bedding
> while leaving us everyonese only the bed frame
> but that was the only concession the politically weak
> countries were able to managequadripoint
>
> so i believe there really is an everyonese sovereign tripoint
> for whatever it is worth
> wherever a territorial sea boundary terminates
> as it must when it reaches 12nm from coastal base lines
>
> but i also realize that these everyonese tripoints also normally
> mark the beginning points of the sovereign rights zones
> & these simultaneously produce a sort of binational
> with the corresponding pair of sovereign territorieslimits
> right on top of the trisovereign point
>
> these complex points arent shown on the maps you reference
>
>
> & finally there are also sovereign rights tripoints at the seaward
> end of eez & protruding shelf boundaries
> where the undiminished part of everyones land kicks in
>
> but i realize there are none of these in the north sea
> & it is evidently these that you are talking about
> so i do agree with you to that extent
>
>
> & i have been using ev informally here to symbolize all such
> everyones land &or water
> enclosed within both of these legal maximum & minimum
> as erected by the law of the sea treaties&
> & incidentally also by the antarctic treaty
>
> & there may well be iso symbols to indicate each of these wet
> dry portions respectively of everyones land
> i dont know
> but i have been taking the liberty of using ev here
> to indicate all of everyones land & water at once
> for which i doubt there is any other symbol available or in use