1. Some thoughts on claves
    I wish to make a few codifications of the obvious, then state something that I have newly realized about enclaves. As nature abhors a vacuum, political
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 18:22 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  2. Re: Some thoughts on claves
    ... something that I ... enclave. I need not ... engendered by their ... unilaterally or ... claves do or do not ... for only ... places under siege are
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 19:58 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Some thoughts on claves
    ... I would say that national-level enclaves were promoted from sub- national enclaves when the larger entity you talk about was divided. It only explains
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 21:36 - Pepijn Hendriks ("Pepijn Hendriks" <yahoo@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
    ... You are correct, but I did not say that ALL enclaves result from the division of larger entities, but that most modern ones do. I suppose that West Berlin
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 21:51 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Some thoughts on claves
    True. They are promoted to the national level from whatever previous sub-national origin. I carefully spoke of them as artifacts of division. Lowell G.
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 22:08 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  6. Re: Some thoughts on claves
    nor do i think you did say that but i responded as i did by way of exception because you kept saying the claves only exist to such extent & that they only
    Sep 22, 2004 @ 22:20 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  7. Re: Some thoughts on claves
    But it was tolerated to the extent that they did not resume active fighting. They might not have liked it, but they did tolerate it enough not to engage in
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:32 - mikekaufman79 ("mikekaufman79" <mikekaufman79@...>)
  8. Re: Some thoughts on claves
    whatever specific case you mean by it your statement is probably true if they have stopped fighting there & havent resumed but false so long as they are still
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:46 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
    I was speaking of East German toleration of West Berlin. ... _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:54 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  10. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
    Okay. I see what you mean. My pronouncement only to such extent and for only so long as they are tolerated was perhaps a bit overdrawn and did not take
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:56 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
    Degrees of tolerance and intolerance are relative. They only tried to starve the people of West Berlin. The reason they didn t succeed is because they were
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:59 - Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
  12. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
    Yes but knowing the consequences, they tolerated the clave enough not to attempt to obliterate it. Now of course tolerance has degrees. But when intolerance
    Sep 23, 2004 @ 02:35 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)