Okay. I see what you mean. My pronouncement "only to such extent and for only
so long as they are tolerated" was perhaps a bit overdrawn and did not take
sieges into account.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
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> nor do i think you did say that
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> but i responded as i did by way of exception because you kept
> saying the claves only exist to such extent
> & that they only exist for so long
> etc etc
> whereas now you are saying only that most modern ones do so
> which is thankfully less doctrinaire & actually more accurate
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
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> > > places under siege are exceptional
> > > in not being tolerated
> > > yet are basically archetypical of enclaves also
> > >
> > > nor do these necessarily result from the division of some
> larger
> > > entity
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> > > but many enclaves are just the result of military standoffs
> >
> > You are correct, but I did not say that ALL enclaves result from
> the division of
> > larger entities, but that most modern ones do.
> >
> > I suppose that West Berlin was an enclave besieged. It was
> clearly not
> > tolerated by the surrounding power, but it persisted as a result
> of a military
> > stand-off. Its ability to persist depended entirely on its resupply
> via a
> > sovereign airspace corridor that the surrounding power dared
> not violate. Some
> > might argue that the existence of that corridor made it less than
> completely
> > enclaved in all three dimensions.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
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