nor do i think you did say that

but i responded as i did by way of exception because you kept
saying the claves only exist to such extent
& that they only exist for so long
etc etc
whereas now you are saying only that most modern ones do so
which is thankfully less doctrinaire & actually more accurate

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
> > places under siege are exceptional
> > in not being tolerated
> > yet are basically archetypical of enclaves also
> >
> > nor do these necessarily result from the division of some

larger

> > entity
> >
> > but many enclaves are just the result of military standoffs
>
> You are correct, but I did not say that ALL enclaves result from

the division of

> larger entities, but that most modern ones do.
>
> I suppose that West Berlin was an enclave besieged. It was

clearly not

> tolerated by the surrounding power, but it persisted as a result

of a military

> stand-off. Its ability to persist depended entirely on its resupply

via a

> sovereign airspace corridor that the surrounding power dared

not violate. Some

> might argue that the existence of that corridor made it less than

completely

> enclaved in all three dimensions.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA