Yes but knowing the consequences, they tolerated the
clave enough not to attempt to obliterate it.
Now of course tolerance has degrees. But when
intolerance is spoken of in degrees, it of course
refers to a corresponding degree of tolerance. Glass
half empty, glass half full argument I guess. Usually
when I think of intolerance I think of a lack of
tolerance, 0% tolerance; but I do indeed think of
tolerance in degrees.
--- "Lowell G. McManus" <
mcmanus71496@...> wrote:
> Degrees of tolerance and intolerance are relative.
> They only tried to starve
> the people of West Berlin. The reason they didn't
> succeed is because they were
> not willing to suffer the consequences of shooting
> down US military aircraft in
> the established air corridor. They eventually gave
> up and reverted to
> grumpiness and bluster.
>
> Sieges are relatively temporary by nature. If they
> succeed, the enclave is
> gone. If they don't, they are ineffectively
> intolerant.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mikekaufman79" <mikekaufman79@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:32 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Some thoughts on claves
>
>
> > But it was tolerated to the extent that they did
> not resume active
> > fighting. They might not have liked it, but they
> did tolerate it
> > enough not to engage in significant live-fire
> military operations
> > with the goal of eliminating it.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > Mike wrote:
> > >
> > > > places under siege are exceptional
> > > > in not being tolerated
> > > > yet are basically archetypical of enclaves
> also
> > > >
> > > > nor do these necessarily result from the
> division of some larger
> > > > entity
> > > >
> > > > but many enclaves are just the result of
> military standoffs
> > >
> > > You are correct, but I did not say that ALL
> enclaves result from
> > the division of
> > > larger entities, but that most modern ones do.
> > >
> > > I suppose that West Berlin was an enclave
> besieged. It was clearly
> > not
> > > tolerated by the surrounding power, but it
> persisted as a result of
> > a military
> > > stand-off. Its ability to persist depended
> entirely on its
> > resupply via a
> > > sovereign airspace corridor that the surrounding
> power dared not
> > violate. Some
> > > might argue that the existence of that corridor
> made it less than
> > completely
> > > enclaved in all three dimensions.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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