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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Flynn, Kevin"
> They did measure around the presumed
> 1934 low water line on Ellis Island and there is a length to it.
really
you mean 1834
but can you help me to it
thats the number i want
or close enough to it
> It is
> really silly to say that a river that courses, e.g., 10 miles must
be
> regarded as infinite in shorelineand equal to the Nile.
yes i agree
if infinity doesnt equal infinity
but doesnt it
i forget
but also why not be really silly
& why couldnt the shorelines of unequal rivers be equal
> Regarding Ellis Island, while you are correct about the origin of
the legal
> matter (NJ's claim regarding the filled portion of the island on
formerly
> submerged ground) NJ didn't dispute NY jurisdiction on the
original 1834
> defined island. The 1834 compact is the "lesser" instrument I
refer to,
> which appears to me to be something less than actually
conferring NY
> statehood to the island, but is merely a NJ concession of NY's
right to
> authority over the original island.
the 1834 is the original & definitive agreement
& possibly the only completely ratified agreement to date
i have the telling parts if you want excerpts
> I still am not clear on whether Ellis is a true outclave of NY, or
simply NJ
> territory that has had its jurisdiction ceded to NY by simple
agreement.
it is a true outclave
based on this agreement