wait karolis
since the treaty begins by outright requiring the state border to be
a vertical plane as well as a line
it is your burden to persuade me
whether you have the time for it or not
that it ever fails to be a vertical plane

all i can understand from this text is that wherever there is a
conflict between the previously established border & the middles
or technological axes of the subsequent installations
it is enshrined here that the latter simply trump the former

the former & the latter cant coexist
because the boundary is by definition a vertical plane

so i do actually continue to doubt that you have pointed to any
true examples of vertical discontuity here yet either
but just a misinterpretation of the facts due to an oversight

this is what i was saying commonly happens to these rumors

despite everyones best intentions & highest hopes
so far they have all seemed to evaporate under closer scrutiny

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Karolis B."
<kbajoraz@y...> wrote:

> Really don't got a lot of time for this, but here a little
> translation of mine fore everyone to enjoy
>
>
> TREATY
> OF THE REPUBLIC OF LITHUANIA AND THE RUSSIAN

FEDERATION

>
> ON LITHUANIAN AND RUSSIAN STATE BORDER
>
> blah blah blah blah blah (Preamble)
>
> Para 1
>
> In this Treaty term "state border" means the line and the

vertical

> plane that follows this line, which separate the territories - dry
> land, waters, ground depths and air spaces - of the Republic of
> Lithuania and the Russian Federation.
>
> Para 6
>
> Trough bridges, dams and other installments that are built

over

> rivers, streams, lakes and other water bodies, the state border
> follows the middle of these installments or their technological

axis,

> regardless of where the state border goes in the water.
>
> Para 7
>
> Questions related to the exploitation of engineered

installments,

> communications and other infrastructure objects which are cut

by the

> state border or are on it (and the difference between these two
> is...?) are resolved by separate agreements.
>
> Completed in Moscow, on the 24th day of October of the year

1997, in

> two copies, each in Lithuanian and Russian languages, both

of which

> hold equal power.
>
> FOR THE REPUBLIC OF LITHUANIA FOR THE RUSSIAN

FEDERATION

>
> (However, yet to be ratified by Russia, perhaps this month.

Currently

> previous soviet republican border is used for the administarion

line.

> In any case, identical clauses exist in LTPL treaty, LTLV too, I
> think, and probably in BYLT too)