Subject: Re: Kokkina
Date: Sep 16, 2004 @ 02:39
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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beyond the coastal baselines
every innocently passing ship in the night exercises de facto
sovereignty over its immediate vicinity
as well as de jure sovereignty over itself & everything on it

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
<lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> It may be "knowable" if the Turks support the town only by sea -
I
> can't imagine the UN is allowing military transports across it's
> surrounding sector. If we find that the de facto sovereignty
being
> exercized in the surrounding waters really has the town
isolated, then
> we would know what we are dealing with. The UN must be
able to tell
> us what's up.
> LN
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
<aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > kokkina is really a de facto political exclave
> >
> > but because there is no agreement between cyprus proper &
> > turkish cyprus delimiting their respective seas
> > as there is between cyprus proper & the uk restricting the
sba
> > areas to dry land only
> > it is unknown & unknowable whether kokkina is an enclave
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
> > <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> > > Is Kokkina really an enclave [exclave]? That would, it
seems to
> > me,
> > > depend on who exercizes sovereignty over the water off the
> > coast to
> > > the open sea.
> > > LN
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Meynell
> > <knm@m...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I haven't heard of Kokkina/Erenköy since I visited this
> > website a few
> > > > >minutes ago, but I take the liberty to assume the enclave
> > still exist.
> > > >
> > > > It was certainly still there when I was in Cyprus last year.
The
> > > area was
> > > > heavily guarded by UN troops, and it wasn't possible to
enter.
> > > >
> > > > I managed to take a photo of the enclave from road that
> > bypasses it.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.meynell.com/cyprus/kokkina-enclave.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Meynell