No agree. When a ship is in someone's territorial waters it's
surrounding sovereignty is zero. Even the insides are not sovereign -
the captain may be master, but he's under someone else's flag when off
high seas - and only an extraterritorial treaty arrangement can save
him from legal search, confiscation, etc.
LN
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> beyond the coastal baselines
> every innocently passing ship in the night exercises de facto
> sovereignty over its immediate vicinity
> as well as de jure sovereignty over itself & everything on it
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
> <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> > It may be "knowable" if the Turks support the town only by sea -
> I
> > can't imagine the UN is allowing military transports across it's
> > surrounding sector. If we find that the de facto sovereignty
> being
> > exercized in the surrounding waters really has the town
> isolated, then
> > we would know what we are dealing with. The UN must be
> able to tell
> > us what's up.
> > LN
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > kokkina is really a de facto political exclave
> > >
> > > but because there is no agreement between cyprus proper &
> > > turkish cyprus delimiting their respective seas
> > > as there is between cyprus proper & the uk restricting the
> sba
> > > areas to dry land only
> > > it is unknown & unknowable whether kokkina is an enclave
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
> > > <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> > > > Is Kokkina really an enclave [exclave]? That would, it
> seems to
> > > me,
> > > > depend on who exercizes sovereignty over the water off the
> > > coast to
> > > > the open sea.
> > > > LN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Meynell
> > > <knm@m...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I haven't heard of Kokkina/Erenköy since I visited this
> > > website a few
> > > > > >minutes ago, but I take the liberty to assume the enclave
> > > still exist.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was certainly still there when I was in Cyprus last year.
> The
> > > > area was
> > > > > heavily guarded by UN troops, and it wasn't possible to
> enter.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to take a photo of the enclave from road that
> > > bypasses it.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.meynell.com/cyprus/kokkina-enclave.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Meynell