but if the tripoint hadnt been marked by any
monument
as is the case with few dry but most wet points for
example
Which wet tps ARE directly marked with a monument?:
FINOSE...
This is the only example I came up with. Unless I'm
missing some, then this could be unique on the
international scale.
--- aletheiak <
aletheiak@...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Patton
> [DCP]"
> <dpatton@c...> wrote:
> > At 01:44 AM 2004/07/19,
> BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> > >Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > > 2. Re: Info re BCIDWA and BCIDMT tripoints
> > > From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> >
> >_________________________________________________
> _______________________
> > >
> > >Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:38:58 -0000
> > > From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> > >Subject: Re: Info re BCIDWA and BCIDMT tripoints
> > >
> > >major congrats dave
> > >especially as bcidwa was looking far more
> challenging than
> bcidmt
> > >in terms of remoteness & physical difficulty
> > >not to mention in terms of its punctology
> > >so bravissimos
> > >
> > >was that a class a
> >
> > This group's "visit class categories" are so
> 'fuzzy' that
> > I don't think I can say with any certainty.
> However, I
> > think you'll see when I write up my visit that it
> probably
> > is a "Class A" visit, or some variation thereof.
> >
> > >indeed was it monumented after all
> >
> > Yes.
>
> if you think they are fuzzy at all
> then maybe you just havent fully understood them yet
>
> they are actually quite simple rigorous distinct &
> comprehensive
>
> & i realize they wouldnt work at all for
> confluencing
> but they are quite meaningful if not perfect for
> tripointing
>
> for example
> since this bcidwa tripoint is marked by a monument
> if you touched the place on the monument that marks
> the tripoint
> such as
> usually
> the vertex of an obelisk or a crosshairs or dimple
> on a flat top
> then you visited your point class a
> absolutely
>
> you absolutely made your point
> assuming the rock wasnt too dilapidated to still be
> accurate
> or otherwise compromised
>
>
> but if the tripoint hadnt been marked by any
> monument
> as is the case with few dry but most wet points for
> example
> then a visit couldnt be absolutely validated but
> only indirectly
> inferred from secondary data
> so the best possible visit try would only have been
> class b
>
> a basic visit all right but still perhaps a little
> blurred
>
> & probably only in such a case btw might a gps
> reading for
> example have been useful for validation
>
> but class b is not necessarily less accurate or less
> good than
> class a
>
> rather class b is only probably less accurate than
> class a
> no matter how carefully one may have tried
> as well as definitely different in quality
>
> these 2 top classes are both the best possible
> visits for their
> respective situations & conditions
>
>
> now
> back to your monumented tripoint or all tripoints
> generally
>
> if you didnt actually touch the tripoint but merely
> saw it distinctly
> however close you may have come
> then that is only class c
> as in close
>
> if you saw the tripoint from such a distance that it
> was indistinct
> or could only be generally or approximately
> visualized
> then that is only class d
> as in distant
>
>
> & if you earnestly tried but never reached or even
> saw the tripoint
> whether from a great distance or even from right
> beside the
> marker
> then that is class e
> as in elusive
>
> thats right
> there have actually been cases where someone saw &
> even
> touched the marker but still never reached nor even
> saw the
> tripoint itself
>
>
> so our abcde classes dont really describe relative
> distances but
> only characteristics of relative precision & clarity
>
> & they apply equally to visits or to photos of
> visits btw
>
>
> & i can imagine all this might be a lot different
> from the extreme
> reliance on gps & photographic validation that
> confluencers use
>
> but we are interested in different things & in doing
> them
> differently too
>
> & of course the points & norms of confluencing might
> seem
> equally fuzzy to multipointers
>
> like in our terms i believe you all never actually
> achieve class a
> but accept the limitations of your instruments as
> your basic point
> size
>
> so your points are actually not points at all but
> small circles
> & thus i believe all your visits correspond at best
> to our class b
> being not absolute but just the best available
> approximations
>
> but that doesnt necessarily make you fuzzy
> only different
> & necessarily so
>
>
> > >& did you try bcidmt too
> >
> > No.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Patton
> > Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
> > http://www.confluence.org/
> > My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
>
>
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