Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: encore daman diu
Date: Mar 18, 2004 @ 06:58
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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From: "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: encore daman diu
> I posted to the photos library extracts from old Portuguese-Goa Era
> maps showing Diu, a slice of Goa with the small island of Angediva
> south of it, off the coast of the Bombay state coastal town of Karwar,
> and Damao - which was really three parts - the "coastal Damao" an
> inland section and the exclave of the inland section called Dadra. Of
> special interest to me is the Bombay exclave inside of "inland Damao"
> - I wonder if it is still a piece of Bombay inside Indian-Goa.
> Regards
> Len Nadybal
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "raedwulf16" <raedwulf16@y...>
> wrote:
> > Thanks again for your efforts on my behalf...A close look at
> > the "India" map in the "Hammond Citation" atlas (revised 2003)
> > clearly shows the island of "Anjidiv" located just to the south of
> > Goa and off the northern coast of Karnataka.It also clearly shows
> > that it is considered to be part of Daman-Diu,the 2 major units of
> > which are located a very substantial distance to the north (in the
> > Dadra-Nagar Haveli-Gujarat area) .An image search I did on Google
> > also showed a "map" that included the three parts ...Daman-Diu-
> > Anjidiv as 3 separate "insets" but my attempt to follow through on
> > this lead was thwarted by a dead link.I have, as you too evidently
> > have, uncovered VAST quantities of tantalizing historical data
> > about Anjidiv"s connection with Goa in the colonial period..My
> > concern is ...Which entity..Goa..or Daman-Diu actually has title to
> > the island NOW(2004)? I sent out emails to various Indian tourist
> > agencies etc. and received a reply(which i will attach after my
> > remarks) from someone representing Goa as the rightful claimant..but
> > the "tone" of the email is rather "defensive" almost as if the
> > matter had been decided against Goa and the email author is
> > attempting to take issue with the result...after all the Hammond
> > Citation indicates that Anjidiv,indeed, does belong to Daman-
> > Diu..in spite of it's relative proximity to Goa.Could it be that
> > when Goa-Daman-Diu was divided into two separate territories....Goa
> > AND Daman-Diu ..the island of Anjidiv was ,for whatever reason,
> > assigned to Daman-Diu in the face of obvious "geographical-
> > proximity' concerns on the part of Goa?? Muchas gracias otra vez por
> > su ayuda....raedwulf.
> > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:34:20 +0000 (GMT)
> > From: "godfrey gonsalves" <gonsalvesgodfreyji@y...> Add to
> > Address Book
> > Subject: ANJEDIVA's statust as of now
> > To: raedwulf16@y...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes Anjediv is legally still attached to Goa. To cede
> > a part of a territory requires an Act of Parliament.
> > It means that Parliament should vote for such an
> > Amendment in the Constitution ceding a part of its
> > land to another state or to create another entity.
> > This has yet not been done.
> >
> > Considering that it is the Defence Ministry's
> > requirement this seems to have been overlooked by our
> > ex Parliamentarians but time and again writers like
> > the undersigned keep the authorities reminded on this
> > necessity.
> >
> > Godfrey J I Gonsalves
> > Borda Margao Goa
> > gonsalvesgodfreyji@y...
> >
> >
> >
> > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > ok i had a feeling you might have been looking either for the
> > > mentioned former detached inland section of diu called nagar
> > > haveli
> > > or else for the also mentioned but unnamed yet still extant
> > > mainland complement to diu island
> > > which does in fact bring to 3 the number of discrete extant parts
> > > of daman diu
> > > including 1 island & 1 other piece whose name could have
> > > answered to your anjidiv or angediva
> > >
> > > but lo here it is
> > > presumably a 4th piece
> > > http://72.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GO/GOA.htm
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "raedwulf16"
> > > <raedwulf16@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Thanks for the swift response..What I am looking for would
> > > be
> > > > more current than historical..I know that "Goa- Daman and Diu"
> > > were
> > > > all one political entity when taken by India from Portugal ...I
> > am
> > > > equally certain that Goa has been separated from Daman and
> > > Diu since
> > > > that time.
> > >
> > > do you mean you think this source is wrong in giving separate
> > > dates of 1961 & 1987 for these 2 events
> > >
> > > I once saw...somewhere... a map that showed "Daman and
> > > > Diu" as consisting of three discrete parts.. and i think the
> > part
> > > > in question was an island .. to the south.. called
> > > > possibly "Anjidiv" or "Angediva" ???....in one source it said
> > > > that "Daman and Diu" is politically "unitary"...but that need
> > not
> > > > preclude separate geographical "units" ..I think those
> > > geographical
> > > > units are Daman,Diu, and this "unknown as yet to me"
> > > island??..
> > > > Thanks again..I will find it... Possibly in Miriam-Webster's
> > > > geographical dictionary...if I can get my paws on a copy. hasta
> > > la
> > > > vista ...Nos
> > > >
> > vemos...Saturday.....raedwulf
> > > > In
> > > > BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "raedwulf16"
> > > > > <raedwulf16@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Am I mistaken in thinking that there is a third somewhat
> > > > > smaller
> > > > > > part of this "union territory"(Daman Diu) somewhere to the
> > > > > south on
> > > > > > India's west coast? I think it is an island....(I might
> > possibly
> > > > > > have it confused with another part of Goa??)
> > > > >
> > > > > do you mean mistaken in thinking that there is
> > > > > or mistaken in thinking that there was
> > > > >
> > > > > but this may settle everything on all the bits & pieces
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/D/Daman.asp
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