Subject: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] UAE Internal Borders
Date: Aug 26, 2003 @ 17:17
Author: m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
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this settles it tho
aeqasa is definitely wet
beginning about halfway down the page
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/watch/policywatch/policywatc
h2001/525.htm
& it explains the discrepancy as well as how it was resolved

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079"
<barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> the attached speculations from message 8209 posted late last
> year about the probable wetness of the aeqasa tripoint are
> potentially confirmed by the installation of tidal gauges not just
> on one side but on each side of the qatari saudi border
> as reported at this qasa site
> http://www.ignfi.fr/england/projets/diversarabiesaoud.htm
> which also shows various qasa monuments
>
> the wetness on both ends of qasa is also supported by all the
> available cia maps at pcl
>
> but does the phrase here
> on each side of the border
> mean
> at both ends of the border
> or merely
> on both sides of the border at one of its ends
>
> in any case i think the idea of a dry aeqasa
> tho it still appears on many other maps
> is looking rather far fetched at this point
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "I M Naanu"
> >
> > > Amazing exercise this punctography of UAE internal &
> External
> > > borders. Wonder how!
> >
> > multi thanxxx dear naanu
> > i swoon at every appreciation of these things
> >
> > > decided more on allegiance to a particular tribe or a
> Sheikh....
> > > Often borders would change frequently as allegiances
> shifted.
> >
> > & this explains also the amazing patchwork quilt you guys
have
> > achieved there
> > certainly among the grandest of such creations on the planet
> >
> > > The Ae-Qa border is, I think under dispute. Some say a
short,
> > 19km
> > > ae-qa border exists, some say not. From practical
> experience,
> > my
> > > company trucks going regularly to and fro between qa & ae
> > have to
> > > pass through sa border controls before reaching qa border
&
> > customs.
> >
> > that was my guess too based on the qa & sa maps i have
> seen
> > but how much the better to have it confirmed by your account
> >
> > i think for trypointing purposes it is always a question of what
is
> > the best available truth
> > & i would say the probabilities espoused by disputants are
> > normally of equal validity
> >
> > so fully bagging a disputed tripoint means visiting both
> locations
> > or all probable locations in the event of a multiple dispute
> > such as could well be the case here
> >
> > quite a mess
> > except there is the saving grace that
> > all other things being equal
> > the de facto situation is more valid than any other probability
> > naturally
> >
> > & in this case since the saudi border controls evidently reflect
> the
> > truest available aesa & the truest available qasa in this
sense
> > then i believe the truest available aeqasa is not on dry land at
> all
> > but a few miles out to sea
> >
> > & the challenge of deriving the most plausible location for
this
> > tripoint from the best available data may be even greater than
> > that of reaching its location
> > even if you were to swim for it
> >
> > but if as i surmise
> > the de facto situation reflects purely the saudi reality
> > rather than the qatari &or uaei realities
> > the resultant best available tripoint may even be shown on
> saudi
> > sailing charts
> > so it might easily be plotted & visited with gps on your next
> > pleasure cruise
> >
> > > If you could confirm this from the qa or sa side, it would be
> > > wonderful.
> >
> > yes consider it confirmed
> >
> > > The om-ae-sa tripoint is called Umm-Az-ZumUl and it's a
> > harsh and
> > > arid place in the northern part of Rub-al-Khali proper.
> > Apparently, 4-
> > > WD vehicles make trips to this place to see the salt flats as
> > well as
> > > a deep water well over here.
> > > JD had told me that its a beautiful place and advised me to
> see
> > it
> > > for myself. Having followed his advice for the Madha border
> > post so
> > > close to the Khorfakkan-Fujairah road, I have no doubt any
> > expedition
> > > to this area will be rewarding in exclusivity.
> >
> > bravo
> > keep me with you for it whenever you go
> >
> > > > but of all these 13 the most interesting one to my thinking
> > > > remains aeom2fumush in the uniquely trisovereign town
of
> > > > dibba
> > >
> > > This is indeed, as you rightly meant, 'delicious'. Can't wait!
> > >
> > > Bye,
> > > IMN
> >
> > & ditto