Subject: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] UAE Internal Borders
Date: Aug 26, 2003 @ 20:57
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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& here is the full exposition behind the glib version
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~amcewen/MaineCan.pdf
but it is evidently limited only to the saint croix river

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079"
<barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> this settles it tho
> aeqasa is definitely wet
> beginning about halfway down the page
>
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/watch/policywatch/policywatc
> h2001/525.htm
> & it explains the discrepancy as well as how it was resolved
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079"
> <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > the attached speculations from message 8209 posted late
last
> > year about the probable wetness of the aeqasa tripoint are
> > potentially confirmed by the installation of tidal gauges not
just
> > on one side but on each side of the qatari saudi border
> > as reported at this qasa site
> > http://www.ignfi.fr/england/projets/diversarabiesaoud.htm
> > which also shows various qasa monuments
> >
> > the wetness on both ends of qasa is also supported by all
the
> > available cia maps at pcl
> >
> > but does the phrase here
> > on each side of the border
> > mean
> > at both ends of the border
> > or merely
> > on both sides of the border at one of its ends
> >
> > in any case i think the idea of a dry aeqasa
> > tho it still appears on many other maps
> > is looking rather far fetched at this point
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "I M Naanu"
> > >
> > > > Amazing exercise this punctography of UAE internal &
> > External
> > > > borders. Wonder how!
> > >
> > > multi thanxxx dear naanu
> > > i swoon at every appreciation of these things
> > >
> > > > decided more on allegiance to a particular tribe or a
> > Sheikh....
> > > > Often borders would change frequently as allegiances
> > shifted.
> > >
> > > & this explains also the amazing patchwork quilt you guys
> have
> > > achieved there
> > > certainly among the grandest of such creations on the
planet
> > >
> > > > The Ae-Qa border is, I think under dispute. Some say a
> short,
> > > 19km
> > > > ae-qa border exists, some say not. From practical
> > experience,
> > > my
> > > > company trucks going regularly to and fro between qa &
ae
> > > have to
> > > > pass through sa border controls before reaching qa
border
> &
> > > customs.
> > >
> > > that was my guess too based on the qa & sa maps i have
> > seen
> > > but how much the better to have it confirmed by your
account
> > >
> > > i think for trypointing purposes it is always a question of
what
> is
> > > the best available truth
> > > & i would say the probabilities espoused by disputants are
> > > normally of equal validity
> > >
> > > so fully bagging a disputed tripoint means visiting both
> > locations
> > > or all probable locations in the event of a multiple dispute
> > > such as could well be the case here
> > >
> > > quite a mess
> > > except there is the saving grace that
> > > all other things being equal
> > > the de facto situation is more valid than any other
probability
> > > naturally
> > >
> > > & in this case since the saudi border controls evidently
reflect
> > the
> > > truest available aesa & the truest available qasa in this
> sense
> > > then i believe the truest available aeqasa is not on dry land
at
> > all
> > > but a few miles out to sea
> > >
> > > & the challenge of deriving the most plausible location for
> this
> > > tripoint from the best available data may be even greater
than
> > > that of reaching its location
> > > even if you were to swim for it
> > >
> > > but if as i surmise
> > > the de facto situation reflects purely the saudi reality
> > > rather than the qatari &or uaei realities
> > > the resultant best available tripoint may even be shown on
> > saudi
> > > sailing charts
> > > so it might easily be plotted & visited with gps on your next
> > > pleasure cruise
> > >
> > > > If you could confirm this from the qa or sa side, it would
be
> > > > wonderful.
> > >
> > > yes consider it confirmed
> > >
> > > > The om-ae-sa tripoint is called Umm-Az-ZumUl and it's a
> > > harsh and
> > > > arid place in the northern part of Rub-al-Khali proper.
> > > Apparently, 4-
> > > > WD vehicles make trips to this place to see the salt flats
as
> > > well as
> > > > a deep water well over here.
> > > > JD had told me that its a beautiful place and advised me
to
> > see
> > > it
> > > > for myself. Having followed his advice for the Madha
border
> > > post so
> > > > close to the Khorfakkan-Fujairah road, I have no doubt
any
> > > expedition
> > > > to this area will be rewarding in exclusivity.
> > >
> > > bravo
> > > keep me with you for it whenever you go
> > >
> > > > > but of all these 13 the most interesting one to my
thinking
> > > > > remains aeom2fumush in the uniquely trisovereign
town
> of
> > > > > dibba
> > > >
> > > > This is indeed, as you rightly meant, 'delicious'. Can't
wait!
> > > >
> > > > Bye,
> > > > IMN
> > >
> > > & ditto