Subject: Re: Largest enclave
Date: Mar 13, 2001 @ 22:36
Author: peter.smaardijk@and.com (peter.smaardijk@...)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> yes i agree
> & i see you have also anticipated my hole card point here too
>
> the overseas classes
> both the insular & the continental
> of so called claves dont at all have the same keyhole feel as the
normal sort
> so at least etymologically there has been a slippage & distortion
here that
> i would also tend to back away from
>
> m
>
>
> >
> >michael donner wrote:
> >
> >> thanxx to peter & especially to martin for the further clave &
sovereignty
> >> elucidations
> >> & i am glad to learn equatorial guinea is truly exclavic
> >> nicholsons usage of land area to the contrary notwithstanding
> >>
> >> but i must say this throws my whole previous understanding
> >> or i should say misunderstanding
> >> of maritime tri sovereign points into the drink
> >> so it is back to the underwater drawing board for me
> >> & you can probably expect a considerable retrenchment from my
earlier guess
> >> of 160 maritime tri country points worldwide
> >>
> >> upon further relection also
> >> i would just like to retreat an extra inch here by adding the
following
> >> hopefully final nuance to clave usage
> >>
> >> altho saying flatly
> >> an enclave of any country
> >> still seems to me to be an abuse of the word of
> >> nevertheless it is not really an abuse of the word in to say
> >> llivia is an exclave of spain or a spanish exclave in france
> >> while i would still prefer to say within france in such cases
> >>
> >> but it would still seem to me to be an abuse of the word in to
say
> >> llivia is an exclave in france
> >> without first identifying it as an exclave of spain or a
spanish exclave
> >>
> >> otherwise i wouldnt want to budge from the positions outlined
below
> >>
> >> m
> >
> >I wonder if you can call Eq. Guinea exclavic. Is the island
completely
> >detached from the continental
> >part? I would say not, because in order to go from the one to the
other,
> >you go through 1. Eq.
> >Guinean terr. waters, 2. international waters (thus belonging to
everyone,
> >including Eq. Guinea), 3.
> >Eq. Guinean terr. waters once more. I think if international
waters are in
> >the way, there is usually
> >less reason to call something an enclave.
> >
> >Peter S.
> >
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