No. No claves, ex or en.
The mainland bit i would call a fragment of the island, as the island has
the larger population and more importantly the capital. The mainland is
larger in area, but still a fragment, as it is peripheral.
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David pulled me up on a fine point:
an enclave or exclave must be surrounded entirely by one other unit.
An enclave is inside you and an exclave is a PIECE of you inside someome
else.
Eq. Guinea is and has neither of these.
By definition, agreed on by Robinson, Catudal, Farran, Raton, etc
An exclave is a piece of one country/political unit separated form that unit
and totally surrounded by ONE other unit.
therefore it must be:
a) a piece of a larger entity
b) landlocked and 100% surrounded by another unit.
Jungholz is not an exclave as it has a point connection with mainland
Austria. But being a singularity is very interesting nonetheless.
I dislike the distinction of en and ex claves, and tend to call both
enclaves.
Why?
Because traditionally, Llivia is an exclave of Spain but an enclave of
France.
BUT that makes it also a French exclave and a Spanish enclave form the
spanish and French points of view respectively.
So if it is a Spanish enclave AND a Spanish exclave, a French enclave AND a
French exclave, what's the point of the distinction?
It gets easily lost in English syntax.
Thus I prefer not to draw the distinction in that way, as I think it serves
little purpose.
B
>From: michael donner <m@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:07:46 -0500
>
>this is good stuff brendan
>& the distinctions are useful
>
>are you saying then that you think equatorial guinea does have an exclave
>as the question was about claves rather than fragments
>
>m
>
>
>
> >
> >I think the martimie terr is an EEZ, and not territorial sea.
> >Which means a foreign naval presence can move through it.
> >But the point of rragments is that they disrupt normal administration and
> >travel and trade etc because there is a rupture of foreign territory or
>sea
> >or lake or unbridged river.
> >The greater this is in width, the harder the administration.
> >
> >Even in territorial sea, someone can come in and suck up the water, and
>you
> >can't do anything about it. But if someone comes on to your land and
>starts
> >digging holes you can.
> >
> >Holes of high seas within an EEZ create administrative problems as ANYONE
> >must be given access to those holes, which allows them to fish illegally
>in
> >your waters on the way through, and it is harder to manage stocks of fish
> >etc because of that free-fishing hole.
> >
> >Once islands like Denmark's are connected by bridges, the administration
> >problems begin to disappear.
> >B
> >
> >
> >>From: michael donner <m@...>
> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
> >>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:11:27 -0500
> >>
> >>i have a map by prescott that shows the 2 apparent fragments of
>equatorial
> >>guinea to be connected by maritime territory & thus not to really be
> >>fragments at all
> >>at least no more than sjaelland & continental denmark are fragments
> >>nor than any offshore island within the territorial waters of denmark or
> >>any other country is a fragment
> >>
> >>m
> >>
> >>by contrast i would say the danish island of bornholm is a true fragment
> >>because in this special case foreign maritime territory does cut it off
> >>completely from the rest of danish territory
> >>
> >>or have i missed your point
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >No. Enclaves have to be totally surrounded by one other entity.
>Eq.G.'s
> >> >mainland is coastal and borders two other countries on land.
> >> >However, it is an interesting FRAGMENT, as although larger in area,
>and
> >> >'mainland', it is smaller in population than Rio Muni island, AND it
>does
> >> >not have the capital.
> >> >Other examples are:
> >> >Malasia, where E.Malaysia is larger, but has smaller pop and not the
> >>capital
> >> >Samoa, where the smaller island has the larger popn and the capital
> >> >Pakistan 1947-1971, where the western part was larger and had the
> >>capital,
> >> >but the East had more population.
> >> >Denmark, where the capital is on an island, not the larger mainland.
> >> >
> >> >Brendan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>
> >> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> >>To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
> >> >>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:48:13 +0100
> >> >>
> >> >>Which is the largest enclave in relations to the main area?
> >> >>
> >> >>How about Equatorial Guninea?
> >> >>
> >> >><<http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
> >>http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
> >> >><http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
> >>http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html
> >> >>
> >> >>If the capital is on an island so far from the main land is then the
> >>main
> >> >>land an enclave?
> >> >>
> >> >>Jesper
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
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