Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
Date: Mar 12, 2001 @ 22:50
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>this is good stuff brendan
>& the distinctions are useful
>
>are you saying then that you think equatorial guinea does have an exclave
>as the question was about claves rather than fragments
>
>m
>
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>>
>>I think the martimie terr is an EEZ, and not territorial sea.
>>Which means a foreign naval presence can move through it.
>>But the point of rragments is that they disrupt normal administration and
>>travel and trade etc because there is a rupture of foreign territory or sea
>>or lake or unbridged river.
>>The greater this is in width, the harder the administration.
>>
>>Even in territorial sea, someone can come in and suck up the water, and you
>>can't do anything about it. But if someone comes on to your land and starts
>>digging holes you can.
>>
>>Holes of high seas within an EEZ create administrative problems as ANYONE
>>must be given access to those holes, which allows them to fish illegally in
>>your waters on the way through, and it is harder to manage stocks of fish
>>etc because of that free-fishing hole.
>>
>>Once islands like Denmark's are connected by bridges, the administration
>>problems begin to disappear.
>>B
>>
>>
>>>From: michael donner <m@...>
>>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:11:27 -0500
>>>
>>>i have a map by prescott that shows the 2 apparent fragments of equatorial
>>>guinea to be connected by maritime territory & thus not to really be
>>>fragments at all
>>>at least no more than sjaelland & continental denmark are fragments
>>>nor than any offshore island within the territorial waters of denmark or
>>>any other country is a fragment
>>>
>>>m
>>>
>>>by contrast i would say the danish island of bornholm is a true fragment
>>>because in this special case foreign maritime territory does cut it off
>>>completely from the rest of danish territory
>>>
>>>or have i missed your point
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >No. Enclaves have to be totally surrounded by one other entity. Eq.G.'s
>>> >mainland is coastal and borders two other countries on land.
>>> >However, it is an interesting FRAGMENT, as although larger in area, and
>>> >'mainland', it is smaller in population than Rio Muni island, AND it does
>>> >not have the capital.
>>> >Other examples are:
>>> >Malasia, where E.Malaysia is larger, but has smaller pop and not the
>>>capital
>>> >Samoa, where the smaller island has the larger popn and the capital
>>> >Pakistan 1947-1971, where the western part was larger and had the
>>>capital,
>>> >but the East had more population.
>>> >Denmark, where the capital is on an island, not the larger mainland.
>>> >
>>> >Brendan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>From: "Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen" <jesniel@...>
>>> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>> >>To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Largest enclave
>>> >>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:48:13 +0100
>>> >>
>>> >>Which is the largest enclave in relations to the main area?
>>> >>
>>> >>How about Equatorial Guninea?
>>> >>
>>> >><<http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
>>>http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
>>> >><http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html>
>>>http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ek.html
>>> >>
>>> >>If the capital is on an island so far from the main land is then the
>>>main
>>> >>land an enclave?
>>> >>
>>> >>Jesper
>>> >>
>>> >
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