Subject: Re: American State Boundaries<br/>
Date: May 07, 2003 @ 12:32<br/>
Author: L. A. Nadybal (&quot;L. A. Nadybal&quot; &lt;lnadybal@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-660836832">How does your reply square with what CNN wrote in its report on the<br/>
Supreme Court case from the end of May 03 where it stated:<br/>
<br/>
&quot;As a result, most of the island in New York Harbor from now on must<br/>
be considered Ellis Island, New Jersey&quot;?<br/>
<br/>
I agree the Feds don&#39;t have a mini-DC there, but the Sumpreme Court<br/>
only said, apparently, that the Feds don&#39;t have the right to alter the<br/>
border of two states at that point.  Does the dispute go on?<br/>
<br/>
LN<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Flynn, Kevin&quot; &lt;flynnk@r...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; Ellis Island, while owned by the federal government, is not federal<br/>
&gt; territory with a boundary to be established. The 3-acre +/- original<br/>
island<br/>
&gt; is NY and the infill surrounding area, and surrounding waters, is NJ.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br/>
&gt; From: L. A. Nadybal [mailto:lnadybal@c...]<br/>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:15 PM<br/>
&gt; To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a><br/>
&gt; Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: American State Boundaries<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@o...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; &gt; in reply to craig:<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt;&quot;it is noteworthy that the ellis island njny loop was originally<br/>
&gt; &gt;fractal but since it is based today on a former rather than the present<br/>
&gt; &gt;shoreline the supreme court adjudicator or special master was forced to<br/>
&gt; &gt;rationalize the line into a series of plotted points&quot;<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; That wouldn&#39;t come into play as an aswer to the question about<br/>
&gt; &quot;interstate&quot; boundaries, because the part of Ellis Island that is<br/>
&gt; federal would make it the second place within the country that is not<br/>
&gt; a part of any state.  For that reason, we couldn&#39;t consider the DC-VA<br/>
&gt; border in trying to answer the question.  There&#39;s got to be a tripoint<br/>
&gt; at one place on the perimiter of the federal portion of Ellis island<br/>
&gt; and another at some other location on the perimiter from which the<br/>
&gt; joint border continues anew.  NJ-NY will not have a common border<br/>
&gt; where the federal portion interrupts.  <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; And, to close off with the &quot;but...&quot; question?  Did the Supreme Court<br/>
&gt; actually say that the plot of federal land on the island is not part<br/>
&gt; of either state or did the court do a &quot;favorite&quot; and leave things <br/>
&gt; ambiguous by saying only that neither state had jurisdiction? <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; LN <br/>
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