Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: American State Boundaries<br/>
Date: May 07, 2003 @ 02:47<br/>
Author: Flynn, Kevin (&quot;Flynn, Kevin&quot; &lt;flynnk@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-591842150">Ellis Island, while owned by the federal government, is not federal<br/>
territory with a boundary to be established. The 3-acre +/- original island<br/>
is NY and the infill surrounding area, and surrounding waters, is NJ.<br/>
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-----Original Message-----<br/>
From: L. A. Nadybal [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnadybal@...">lnadybal@...</a>]<br/>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:15 PM<br/>
To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a><br/>
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: American State Boundaries<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@o...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; in reply to craig:<br/>
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&gt;&quot;it is noteworthy that the ellis island njny loop was originally<br/>
&gt;fractal but since it is based today on a former rather than the present<br/>
&gt;shoreline the supreme court adjudicator or special master was forced to<br/>
&gt;rationalize the line into a series of plotted points&quot;<br/>
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That wouldn&#39;t come into play as an aswer to the question about<br/>
&quot;interstate&quot; boundaries, because the part of Ellis Island that is<br/>
federal would make it the second place within the country that is not<br/>
a part of any state.  For that reason, we couldn&#39;t consider the DC-VA<br/>
border in trying to answer the question.  There&#39;s got to be a tripoint<br/>
at one place on the perimiter of the federal portion of Ellis island<br/>
and another at some other location on the perimiter from which the<br/>
joint border continues anew.  NJ-NY will not have a common border<br/>
where the federal portion interrupts.  <br/>
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And, to close off with the &quot;but...&quot; question?  Did the Supreme Court<br/>
actually say that the plot of federal land on the island is not part<br/>
of either state or did the court do a &quot;favorite&quot; and leave things <br/>
ambiguous by saying only that neither state had jurisdiction? <br/>
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LN <br/>
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