hi Len,
you are right, its not an enclave, but as i see it,
Stadtbremisches Übersseehafengebiet is still an exclave. i will try to find
another map to see, if the harbor borders international waters (but i dont
expect this, if you look to the map i posted in my pre-previous
message).
regards, chris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:38
PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: third level
exclave bremen
In other words, what you are maintaining is that Bremen as
a
Bundesland is made up of two big parts. The northern part is
itself
comprised to two parts, one part is the city of Bremerhaven and
the
other part (the Uebersee hafen) is a detachment from the City of
Bremen.
I guess the only open question is whether the city of
Bremerhaven
completely surrounds the Bremen harbor part. If it
doesn't, it's not
a third level ex- or enclave. Both parts
Bremerhaven and Bremen's
detached harbor have kustengewasser - meaning
maybe they both have
outlets to the international waters.
Do I see
that as you see it?
Len
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Schulz" <23568@g...>
wrote:
> Hi Len,
> just to complete this:
> http://www.bremerhaven.de/stadt/aemter/vpol/einreise.html
>
> here you find the explanation of the special problems for
foreigners
in the "City of Bremen's Overseas Harbor
District".
>
> the website is from the city of bremerhaven,
that has its own office
for residence permits, visas, etc., but it has no
rights to give such
papers for people from the Stadtbremisches
Übersseehafengebiet
Bremerhaven, because this is part of the city of
Bremen.
>
> Regards, Chris.
>
>
>
>
> > Are we really talking about a "third level exclave/enclave" here,
or
> > > only about a part of town in the northern section.
It may be that
> > in
> > > the "City of Bremen's
Overseas Harbor District" there's no permit
> > > office for
residence permits, visas, etc., and that is in some other
> > >
part of town - like in downtown Bremen or somewhere 100km
> >
away.
> > >
> >
> Regards
> > >
> > > Len Nadybal
> >
>
> > >
> > >
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