Subject: Re: third level exclave bremen
Date: Apr 02, 2003 @ 14:38
Author: L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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In other words, what you are maintaining is that Bremen as a
Bundesland is made up of two big parts. The northern part is itself
comprised to two parts, one part is the city of Bremerhaven and the
other part (the Uebersee hafen) is a detachment from the City of Bremen.

I guess the only open question is whether the city of Bremerhaven
completely surrounds the Bremen harbor part. If it doesn't, it's not
a third level ex- or enclave. Both parts Bremerhaven and Bremen's
detached harbor have kustengewasser - meaning maybe they both have
outlets to the international waters.

Do I see that as you see it?

Len



--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Schulz" <23568@g...> wrote:
> Hi Len,
> just to complete this:
> http://www.bremerhaven.de/stadt/aemter/vpol/einreise.html
>
> here you find the explanation of the special problems for foreigners
in the "City of Bremen's Overseas Harbor District".
>
> the website is from the city of bremerhaven, that has its own office
for residence permits, visas, etc., but it has no rights to give such
papers for people from the Stadtbremisches Übersseehafengebiet
Bremerhaven, because this is part of the city of Bremen.
>
> Regards, Chris.
>
>
>
> > > Are we really talking about a "third level exclave/enclave" here, or
> > > only about a part of town in the northern section. It may be that
> > in
> > > the "City of Bremen's Overseas Harbor District" there's no permit
> > > office for residence permits, visas, etc., and that is in some other
> > > part of town - like in downtown Bremen or somewhere 100km
> > away.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Len Nadybal
> > >
> > >
> > >